rajmohan. Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 <p>Hello folks,<br> I just bought a Contax IIa with Sonnar 50mm f2 for a very good price.<br> The camera looks pretty good, shutter fires at all speeds and the speeds sound fairly accurate. The shutter curtain is intact and tight.<br> The only problems are<br> 1) The focus ring on the body is tight (actually only moves in one direction), but the lens can be focused using the helicoid on the lens.<br> 2) The rangefinder appears out of alignment - at infinity, the images are not coincident.<br> From my reading, rangefinder misalignment in these cameras is uncommon - is this correct? If so, is it possible that a problem with the lens could lead to an apparent misalignment, or it is more likely that the RF mechanism in the body needs attention?<br> Lastly, I imagine that the minor problems (and anything else that might be lurking) would be best solved by a service from a skilled technician. I've read about a few options, but many of these threads are out of date and some of the people are no longer in the game. I'd be interested to know if anyone can recommend a skilled repairperson with a reasonable turnaround time.<br> Thank you very much!<br> Raj</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike D Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 <p>I had my Contax IIIA totally overhauled by Henry Scherer several years ago. It's a beautiful piece of precision equipment but is not cheap. He also had a couple year waiting list when I signed up. It may be shorter now. It was well worth the time and expense.<br /> http://www.zeisscamera.com/contact.shtml</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg M Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 <p>Chances are very good the shutter, while it may fire at all speeds and sound "right", the curtains almost certainly are either not opening at the higher speeds, from 1/250 through 1/1250, or they are not exposing the entire frame correctly due to tapering. You can tell by winding and firing with the back off, lens aperture opened up to f2 and camera pointed at a bright light source while you look through the back. It's common and will affect any of these cameras that have not been serviced, which this one has not been from the comments about the focus wheel.</p> <p>If the rangefinder it out vertically, there's no adjustment for that. Vertical misalignment means the prism is bad.</p> <p>It's a beautiful camera to use when working right and I have a pretty sweet copy that's fully functioning, but it wasn't cheap.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajmohan. Posted August 27, 2015 Author Share Posted August 27, 2015 <p>Michael and Greg,<br> Thank you for your input. I agree with all your points, and having it serviced by someone skilled at handling these gems is key (and something I'd like to do). But I understand that Henry Scherer (who has a sterling reputation) might have a waiting list that could run into the years - I've contacted him to see if perhaps this is no longer the case. If I strike out, hopefully there are other people who can service these cameras with a quicker turnaround!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg M Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 <p>You mike drop a line to Mark Hansen..</p> <p>http://www.zeissikonrolleirepair.com/index.html</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_bellayr Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 <p>I, too, recommend the above: Henry W. Scherer. The turnaround time, however, will not be quick as he is the best and has many clients.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajmohan. Posted August 27, 2015 Author Share Posted August 27, 2015 <p>Thank you, Steve. I just heard back from Henry - the wait time is ~5 years. But I'm on the list - just need to be patient :)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg M Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Wow.....he might not last that long, LOL... He's got a cherry-looking IIA Color Dial and 50mm Sonnar for sale.....at an equally cherry price, LOL. But if it works as good as mine, you'd be set. Bought mine from him, as well as an 85mm f2 Sonnar and a 21mm f4.5 Biogon, all sweet looking and equally sweet operating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Lazzari Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 <blockquote> <p>"If the rangefinder it out vertically, there's no adjustment for that. Vertical misalignment means the prism is bad"<br /> <strong><em>Greg C.</em></strong></p> </blockquote> <p>Sorry, but<strong> this is incorrect.</strong><br /> As can be seen in the provided image, there is a way to correct issues with alignment.<br /> In fact, if you're correcting this plus correcting "<em>focus ring on body is tight</em>", then<br /> you must get to (at the least), this much tear-down. <br /> Pictured is the <strong>early stage</strong> of a full-fledged complete C L A to a Contax IIa (Body shell must next be extracted to view all shutter & transport mechanism to be serviced).<br /> <br /> If the OP's Contax has not been tampered with, then confidence is high that this cemented RF element has released it's bond causing it to be loose. <br /> Usually re-seating then re-applying cement will correct the <strong>vertical</strong> misalignment. <br /> If not, tedious shiming with a final bonding makes your readjust hold fast...</p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajmohan. Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share Posted August 30, 2015 <p>Thank you Greg and Gus. Certainly looks like the job calls for a specialist - not just any old tinkerer :)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg M Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Yes, it takes someone willing to take the thing apart, then accurately cement back together to fix the vertical, no easy user-doable adjustment, and I don't think there's a lot of people out there doing it. Back in the mid 80's when I first caught the classic camera bug after reading Ivor Mantanle's book, it was his comments about avoiding Contax post-war IIA and IIIA bodies with rangefinders out vertically that always stuck with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjm photo Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Raj Some years ago I sent my Contax IIA to a well regarded repair house in Los Angeles Ca for CLA. Upon its return, on the first roll of film, it locked up when I attempted to use it with self timer at 1250 shutter speed. I refused to send it back and I ended up sending to John at Focal Point in Colorado. They were polishing several lenses for me so I decided to ask if they would CLA the Contax. They agreed to perform the work so I sent it in and got it back in several weeks later and it still works perfectly six years or so later. They reported that the reason that the camera locked up was because the previous repair party tried to adjust the shutter without a thorough cleaning and they ended up adjusting the shutter too tight. I would give these people a call and see if they would consider repairing your camera sooner than your previous estimate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajmohan. Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share Posted August 31, 2015 <p>Thank you for the information, Robert. Sadly, Focal Point no longer service cameras, per their website. I have read good things about Ed Troszka in the UK, and in the interests of being able to use the camera sooner rather than later, I might send it to him. <br> Thanks everyone for your help!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin_yates Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 <p>Hi Raj, you may have solved this by now but for future info, Newton Ellis in Liverpool are confident on Contax lla cameras.<br> I have restored two of these cameras and found them responsive to methodical treatment, cleaning and light lubrication. The shutter tensioning is important and Henry Sheerer's site has info about how tight or loose the springs should be. I adjusted mine for speed and sonic footprint by using audio recording software, all speeds are within 1/2 stop at worst. On both occasions I did not have to adjust the rangefinder at all,<br> If the rangefinder is horizontally mis-aligned then it appears that the lens helical may have been mis-assembled and has become un-synschronized with the rangefinder mechanism, vertical mis-alignment has been covered above.<br> Kevin</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajmohan. Posted January 4, 2016 Author Share Posted January 4, 2016 <p>Thank you, Kevin. Not wanting to bite off way more than I can chew, I sent the camera out for servicing, and hope to have it back in the next few weeks. Fingers crossed!!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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