larry n. Posted November 4, 2002 Share Posted November 4, 2002 Eventually, I will invest in a Nikon macro lens. For now, I just wanted to find a quick way to start experimenting. The most likely candidate for a macro lens that I have is the MF 75- 150 3.5E. With this lens, can anyone say what would be the pros and cons of (1) extension ring and (2) close up lens? With the extension ring, what length extension ring would be recommended, and with the closeup lens, what diopter? Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith_van_hulle1 Posted November 4, 2002 Share Posted November 4, 2002 With a zoom, I would recommend against an extension tube due to the way the aspect of focus changes as you zoom with a tube attached. Too, you'll need a mm of extension for every mm of focal length to get something like a 1:1 mag. Way to much lens for that. Unless you get something like a 12mm to reduce the close-focus distance in conjunction with a diopter. But you will have to deal with the zoom/focus issue. Not a problem but takes patience to get it right. Look at the Canon or Nikon dual element diopters. No light loss and very easy to use, especially with fill flash. Canon has a "D" designator and Nikon a "T" since they also make single element ones. They don't measure theirs in strengths but rather match them to the filter size on the lens. You can get pretty fair results with these with good technique - good practice for when you get the macro lens. I'd stay away from the single element (especially third-party) diopters - not worth the money unless you just HAVE to go the cheap route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig_bridge Posted November 4, 2002 Share Posted November 4, 2002 I'll second the twin/dual element closeup diopters for zooms. If your filter size is 52mm Nikkor 3T or 4T, 62mm Nikkor 5T or 6T, others Canon 500D in appropriate filter size (Note: the Canon 250D is for lenses in the 30mm to 135mm range and the 500D is for 70mm to 300mm). Long enough extension tubes to get into the macro range are a pain on zooms because the focus control becomes worthless and you focus with the zoom control. Closeup diopter filters don't have this problem and they also don't cost f-stops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_fromm1 Posted November 4, 2002 Share Posted November 4, 2002 Both extension tubes and the good two-element diopter lenses cost nearly as much as the Phoenix/Vivitar 100/3.5 macro lens. Why compromise? Cheers, Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_h._hartman Posted November 5, 2002 Share Posted November 5, 2002 With the 75~150/3.5 try Nikon's T5 and T4 closeup lenses. Also pickup a copy of John Shaws <u>Closeups In Nature</u>. It will save you years of learning by trial and error.<br> <br> Regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_h._hartman Posted November 5, 2002 Share Posted November 5, 2002 Sorry, that should have been T4 and T3. The T5 is 62mm. One of my many typos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_lofquist Posted November 6, 2002 Share Posted November 6, 2002 I would recommend the 4T which is 2.9 Diopters. This way you can get to about 1:3 reproduction ratio, I think. If you get both lenses you can stack them and get even closer. I do use extension tubes on my larger lenses, but they are not as convenient to use as close-up lenses. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry n. Posted November 11, 2002 Author Share Posted November 11, 2002 Thank you all for the great suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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