"CLC" on the Minolta Hi-Matic 11

Discussion in 'Classic Manual Cameras' started by irvine.short, Oct 17, 2011.

  1. Hi,
    Please tell me to shut up if you never want to hear of this camera again.
    I just got back a scan of a Fuji Pro 100 film that I put through my Hi-Matic 11.
    It is ridiculously good and evenly exposed. Rangefinder is spot on and bokeh is smooth. Examples to follow.
    One thing I am curious about - how does the CLC - Contrasting Light Compensation - work? In the Minolta SLRs it apparently used two CDS sensors in the prism but this camera has no prism and only a single little porthole through which the light meter "looks".
    Because it certainly does work. It does not even need light seals.
    I am feeling Christmas came early. This goes a long way to cheer me up after my Yashica Electro 35 was nicked.
  2. "......after my Yashica Electro 35 was nicked".
    It is great news that old 35mm film cameras are once again considered worth stealing. Things are obviously looking up for the film user community.
    Not such good news for you though.
  3. Please tell me to shut up if you never want to hear of this camera again.​
    NO, please keep talkin'! I really love this class of camera, and want one after some intriguing experiences with an Electro 35, also.
    Sorry, can't help with the CLC question, but I admire that great Minolta engineering.
  4. There is only a single 'porthole' but I believe there are 2 cds cells behind it, set at slightly different angles, one downward relative to the other.
  5. Please tell me to shut up if you never want to hear of this camera again.​
    Despite what others say about us here on CMC, we are very cheerful and tolerant. Those who would get tired of hearing about old cameras, crappy or not, have long since left.
    As Rick says:
    Play it Sam - if she can take it, I can​
  6. I'm glad you brought up this topic, Irvine. I've also been curious about how Minolta could get CLC metering though a rim-mounted CDS cell (or cells). I know with the SRT CLC metering you will often get a different meter reading (for a ground/sky shot) when you compare holding the camera vertically with holding it horizontally. I would test the Hi-Matic to see if it responds that way.
  7. I just own a Hi-Matic 7, but this one has a "split" CdS cell, it's divided in two halfs horizontally and has three wires.
    The "holes" in the ring coupled to the aperture dial act as a primitive "camera obscura" and project the lower part of the field of view on the upper half of the CdS cell and vice versa.
  8. Hi All,
    Thanks for the info and encouragement.
    You chaps were exactly right. Turning the camera vertically does indeed change the meter reading. One great thing about this camera is it has exposure lock by pressing the shutter half way.
    I am amazed, really. There is nothing at all quaint about using this camera. To me it feels as slick and usable as an SLR from 20 years later. I used to have a Minolta X-700 and currently have a Nikon F3 and FG.
  9. and when I say "quaint" I mean like using my old Zorki C with it's separate range finder and tiny viewfinder.
    Or to a lesser extent, my Rolleicord. When using cameras like these you know you are working with something from a previous era.
    I hope that by the time film disappears we will be able to get a cheap full frame sensor and a little chip to retrofit into all our old film cameras.
    I am sure it is quite possible now to fit everything you need into a dummy 35mm film canister and to replace the pressure plate with a sensor - it's just too expensive right now. In 10 years time the right kind of sensor might well be cheap as chips.

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