thomas_diekwisch1 Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 Just thought about passing some observations about recent changes in Rollei offerings on to our fellow readers and comment on some. 1. Many of you may have heard about the cancellation of the new Tele-Rolleiflex due to technical reasons related to the dimensions of the original body. This is extremely disappointing because a modified Tele-Rolleiflex with closer focusing could open up new photographic avenues for portrait photography and could have already 40 years ago. The lack of mirror slap, the smooth shutter, and the twin-lens concept with light meter would really be innovative and practical. Hopefully, they'll find a Japanese donor who'll jump in for some of the developing costs. 2. The new 50mm AF-Super-Angulon will be available in spring and a new 150mm AF-Tele-Xenar in summer 2005. This now looks like a really nice lens line-up. All those Schneider lenses are fantastic and they should work really nicely with the AF. While the zoom remains bulky, it probably has its fans as well. It is really nice to see the discontinued 150mm Tele-Xenar return to the catalogue. An AF macro lens would be desirable, in spite of plans to postpone its development. This way Rollei would be competitive with its 645 competition. 3. Some of the more exotic Zeiss lenses such as the 500mm Apo-Tessar, the 40mm Distagon, or the 30mm Fisheye Distagon have been disappearing from the catalogues. While it is a pitty that Zeiss's extreme focal lengths seem to disappear, the overall trend seems reasonable and way overdue. There doesn't seem to be any justifyable reason to have both Schneider and Zeiss compete for the same focal lengths. I'd rather see Rollei focus on its excellent Schneider lenses and compensate this line-up with some Zeiss lenses, where the Schneider set-up is incomplete, such as the Fisheye or the extreme Tele-photo range. Alternatively, Schneider might just design two or three more new lenses. This would help to streamline Rollei's lens portfolio toward its strongest highlights. It's kind of re-assuring to see the changes. Looks like that Rollei is still alive and kicking. Hopefully they'll get a nice digital combo up and running in the near future, and they'll be back in business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wim_van_velzen Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 Hi Thomas, <p> Where did you find this information? I couldn't find much on the www.rollei.de site and neither on the Rollei USA site. <p> The things you say about the Zeiss and Schneider lenses make sense. I wouldn't mind if Schneider would make all lenses (and all AF), provided they cover the whole range. <p> That said, I won't be of much help to the survival of Rollei, as I am quite happy by all the mf Rollei stuff I have now ;-) <p> <a href="http://www.fotografiewimvanvelzen.nl">Wim</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrill Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 For someone with a sizable investment in Rollei 6x6 gear this news is encouraging. But not yet enough to convince one about the ablity of Rollei to survive the digital revolution that appears unstoppable. It would be more reassuring to see them publish a paper stating their strategy for working with he makers of digital backs to ensure that their products work with Rollei cameras. With age taking its toll on my vision I would like to get the 6008 AF for its focus aid but it is pretty hard to justify a further investment in a camera system that seems to be missing the digital bandwagon. And the 2nd hand market for MF gear no longer can help to minimise the upgrade costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjny Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Jenoptik (Eyelike), Imacon and Phase One (H20) digital backs fit on the Rollei 6008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas_diekwisch1 Posted December 27, 2004 Author Share Posted December 27, 2004 Actually, the most attractive option right now is the Phase One P25, but it's fairly expensive. The new Imacon and the Leaf will be ready in spring of 2005. I guess Rollei is up against the competitive Hasselblad and Mamiya 645 bundles. What I was trying to say was that I hope that Rollei goes beyond mere adaptability, but teams up with one of the digital manufacturers and offers a really attractive package, both in terms of price and performance, and advertises it adequately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjny Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 Phase One's P25/P20 as well as the Leaf Valeo/Aptus digital backs are not available to fit Rollei 6000 series cameras. Rollei and Jenoptik/Eyelike seems like a natural fit to me as an alternative to Hasselblad/ Imacon & Mamiya digital offerings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas_diekwisch1 Posted December 31, 2004 Author Share Posted December 31, 2004 I guess that's my point. It's about the new, untethered 22MP backs. I am just saying that Rollei is still kind-of behind in offering a package. I haven't seen the new eyelike emotion22 together with the Rollei and I haven't read a practice report. I guess the new Imacon will be attractive, but for 30K not cheap when it's out. However, while the pros are already working with the new Hasselblad and Mamiya digital backs, it will take Rollei another year to reach that level of applicability. The other issue goes beyond offering an adapter somewhere at the back of a catalogue. People should see a state-of-the-art Rollei package in operation and read reports. It's not a big issue for me, but it might ultimately decide over a lot of market share and probably has so already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjny Posted January 20, 2005 Share Posted January 20, 2005 It seems that Rollei has just announced a package of their 6008AF with Phase One's P20 according to this thread at www.robgalbraith.com http://www.robgalbraith.com/ ubbthreads/ showflat.php?Cat=&Number=304022&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1& vc=1&PHPSESSID= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjny Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 http://www.dcviews.com/press/Rollei-6008-db20.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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