hawkman Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 http://www.canon.com/moon/en/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_green4 Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 the 'moon'... shoot the moon. oh, come on. that really sounds like a consumer full-frame to me. i'll take two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimstrutz Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 No built in flash. Looks like the expected 5D replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_g10 Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Canon is so naughty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suhaskulkarni Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 I can read $1499 Full frame. But I have special glasses :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_hall5 Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Special glasses indeed.... ;o) Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_hall5 Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 This is wrong on so many levels.....but I guess we deserve it. The teasing that is. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suhaskulkarni Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 There are now teasers on canon UK website http://www.canon.co.uk/ and canon france web site too. Teaser says - "See the future of photography. Stay tuned" Future of photography.. OMG has canon done something drastic to photography or what? I hope we will continue using cameras :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_hall5 Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Ummm maybe we will use film again.... :o) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photo_dark Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 You mean i'll (finally) be able to take pictures of the moon with this? Seriously though, the fact it Doesn't have a built in flash is encouraging.... very encouraging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anov Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Too bad it's not a raw files so we can increase exposure to see what it looks like ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_amberson1 Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 I cant wait. Its killing me. Reason? I own a 1D3 and love the high ISO capability. I was told by some people in the business that Canon has been experimenting with a new "Low" voltage tech. with its new sensor stuff. Supposed to cut noise in half. I didnt think much of it. You know... the ones who really know aint telling. But see the new 50D. Canon reports to cut 50D noise by more than 1 stop even after cramming 5 million more pixels in the same area. Now imagine if the 1D3 gets only 12mp with the new stuff. Or even 15. The density is still less. I'm getting chills right now thinking about it. This is just a taste. I'm starting to think my info holds some water. Imagine what the 5DII will bring to the table. Then, what the new 1 Series will do. If all specs are right "when" a 1D3n comes, someone will get a nice deal on a 1D3. I dont care about the AF BS. Mines been great. I'm after the new LCD and better ISO if its leaps ahead of whats already wonderfull. If not much better, I'll keep it. But boy Canon really knows how to stir anticipation. A - Holes!:-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_hall5 Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 >>>"Too bad it's not a raw files so we can increase exposure to see what it looks like ;)"<<< I bet I can close my eyes and be 99% right on the money as to what it will look like. The other 1% is if it will have that #@%$# dedicated direct print button. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkman Posted September 5, 2008 Author Share Posted September 5, 2008 " "Low" voltage tech. with its new sensor stuff. Supposed to cut noise in half." voltage has nothing to do with noise, it saves power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_hall5 Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 >>>"voltage has nothing to do with noise, it saves power."<<< According to Canon it does....less voltage also reduces heat, that inturn means less noise. That is were long exposures always meant more noise if done one right after the other, the sensor heats up and noise becomes more of an issue. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_hall5 Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Cutting Noise in "half"....I would not think that is even close to being remotely true. It just helps some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_green4 Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 saying it's 'evolutionary' suggests a new kind of body. 5D mark 2 or a consumer full-frame body (including a pink 'for her' model) would be nice, but those aren't 'evolutionary' moves, they're simply new models. an evolution would be something that can shoot both ef and ef-s lenses, or a has new kind of sensor, or a shutter-less camera (or a non-mechanical shutter). or...all this could just be advertising hype. still, it's cool to think canon has a real innovation. they'd be the ones to get there first. either way i'm getting a new canon in a few weeks -- whether it's just a new model or a true evolution in dslr technology remains to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkman Posted September 5, 2008 Author Share Posted September 5, 2008 "According to Canon it does....less voltage also reduces heat, that inturn means less noise. That is were long exposures always meant more noise if done one right after the other, the sensor heats up and noise becomes more of an issue. " Well for long exposures it might but not for normal high iso, I think the lower voltage is mainly due to extended use of live view. btw, where did you read from Canon that they said they are using a lower voltage sensor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_green4 Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 people are saying that some 'evolution' sites show the camera with a pop-up flash, while others (in other countries) don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photo_dark Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 I haven't seen one with the pop-up. Comparison based on Japanese site "teaser"<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaglefur Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 My guess is the the "destined evolution" is all about the eventual merging of still photography with video... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_myers Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 It's going to have the new "blink" prevention technology.... Canon has made a major breakthrough with a solution to that age-old problem in photography, where your subjects always seem to manage to blink at the very moment you press the shutter release. Working in conjunction with redeye reduction, face recognition and the AF assist system, the camera will now project an energy beam that grips your subjects' eyelids and holds them open until after the shutter is released. Just imagine, no more photos with eyes closed! It will be called "Eye Control II" and will finally conquer one of the last remaining frontiers of photography. Commence drooling. Note: I got this info from a very solid source... My brother-in-law knows the sister of someone who works at the photo counter in Walgreens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damian_tinsley Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Rumour threads have a short life... But after a long day at work these are soooo much fun to read... LoL Damian If th energy beam works, perhaps it could be used for in-body stabilisation... Or perhaps the MkIII model will simply freeze the subjects - now it works on subject movement too ;-) Bob's going to remove me for this irrelevant twaddle of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_amberson1 Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Arash> I was told that they are using lower voltage systems. The entire system operates on lower voltage. Noise is created from higher voltage signals by boosting ISO. Go from 400 to 800 and you double the voltage signals which in turn creates digital noise. Anytime you amplify an electrical signal, it creates noise. Now for sake of conversation because I have no idea what parameters are used. Lets say they cut the voltage used by ever component to work with half the voltage the current models use(more efficent) then because the voltage is less it would have less digital noise impact on the image. Also what Jason said, runs cooler which drops noise levels, but obviously not by half. This would say maybe provide a 25% better noise level while the impact of the other would stack up to a total of half the noise level. Or 1 stop. This could still turn out not true as I said. But its starting to look like it holds some water looking at the tease we got from the 50D. Canon itself says the 50D 3200 ISO would be equivilent to 40D ISO 1100-1600. Per Canon. Even after cramming an additional 50% more pixles in. I think the 5DII will out do this improvemnet, and thus the 1 will be even better. Maybe matching the future 1D3n ISO 6400=50D ISO 1100-1600 or in that range. Lets be realistic and say Canon adds 50% pixel count to 5DII. Giving it around 18MP. Its only 3MP more than the 50D but with a larger sensor to space the congestion. Add the new tech and I think its gonna be pretty good. I would personally like to see it as a 14MP FF with the new stuff and really hit a homerun with this noise thing. They've done it before, why not again. Whos to say they dont keep it like Nikon and stay 12mp just for pixel density benifits and leave the High MP count for the guys in studios or broad daylight who seldom leave 400 ISO anyway. Give them the 1Ds Mark 3 for D3x competition. None the less, we'll see in 3 weeks if any of us are right or way off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_green4 Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 someone did a comparison of the 5d to the silhouette featured in the 'evolution' site and came up with this: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1032&message=29204767 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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