clark_roberts Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 I picked up a little while ago a used Canon 5D and it seems the top three shutter speeds does not work, I tried with and without a lens it seems 5000, 6400 and 8000 are pretty much done for. So is my shutter going and it needs a adjustment, would anyone know what the problem? Thank You Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Keefer Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) Just to clarify, do you mean 1/5000 sec 1/6400 sec and 1/8000 sec can't be selected or when selected and when pressing the shutter button, nothing happens? And you are not talking about ISO . Does this happen in all modes, manual, shutter priority, aperture priority... I don't have the original 5D but I have read of a similar complaint not just on the 5D but also other models. Things to possibly check, is the lock button on. Do you have a menu setting selected causing this or accidently . Max/Min setting for shutter speed or ISO. You could go into the menu and reset the camera, erasing any custom settings. Remove battery and wait 30 seconds. I once had a memory card go bad and it caused my 6D to lock up. You could try a spare card. Is the battery good and fully charged and this still happens. I would think if the shutter is going or went it would not work at any setting. I have owned 5 different Canon ESO models but never experienced a shutter fail. So I can't say if there are pre failure symptoms. I do recall hearing the original 5D had a recall on mirrors coming loose. There have been people fix that themselves. Saw it on YouTube. Good luck. Edited November 29, 2017 by Mark Keefer Cheers, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clark_roberts Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) Hi mark, Yes it's the shutter speeds the three top shutter speeds 1/5000 sec, 1/6400 sec and 1/8000 sec. when I select them either in manual, aperture or shutter priority modes and I take a picture the image is black, so when I lower the shutter speed down to 1/4000 sec the picture could be taken. I'll go thru the camera and settings and see what you recommended to see if it works. Edited November 29, 2017 by clark_roberts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clark_roberts Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 I reset the camera and no go, batteries are all recharged, changed card still there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Ian Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 (edited) Have you tried locking up the mirror and observing (down the throat) the action of the shutter when those speeds are selected? It's possible a mirror fault could be causing the same symptom (by virtue of it being slightly out of sync), but it's likely that the shutter is just dying... Edited November 30, 2017 by Marcus Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Keefer Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 If it is clicking, trying to take the picture and you get black, maybe the curtain is out of sync with the sensor or other anomalies. Also to clarify, this has nothing to do with using flash and high-speed sync, correct?. It may be a shutter issue. Maybe someone else here has more experience with this issue. Curious, does it work in Live View mode? 1 Cheers, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian_donaldson3 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 If this is a 5D classic it won't have Live Mode. :( I wonder if reloading the firmware might help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clark_roberts Posted November 30, 2017 Author Share Posted November 30, 2017 I called a camera repair place today and they said it's the shutter or out of synch second blades. I was told they might be able to adjust them but in the end it would be better with a new shutter which I would have to get on my own and they would install for $180.00 dollars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Keefer Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Replace shutter would be best way to fix it. Sounds like a good deal on repair for part and labor. Cheers, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jochen_S Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Camera value $300 (going rate for replacement beaters on ebay)? Repair work $180 spare part cost not known yet. Please pardon my ignorance, but I neither know what your 5D is supposed to do nor how shutter decay will progress. - Right now I think yours does everything up to 1/4000sec, so I'd shoot it at 1/2000 and below and observe if things will get worse. I'd probably buy a 5D to shoot products and stuff in a studio or as a 2nd body in broad daylight but wouldn't be eager to try wide open portraiture with it. Thats why I see little need for fastest shutter speeds. If you are hooked by it for some CCD-magic as main reason and get along with your 85/1.2 pretty well, things are different. If I had $300, standing in your shoes, I'd prolly buy another body and color code the current one to make sure I'll use it for things it is still doing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clark_roberts Posted November 30, 2017 Author Share Posted November 30, 2017 I agree with what you say, for now that's what I would do 1/2000 of a sec maybe a little above that. I was thinking of replacing the shutter myself but it a lot of taking the camera apart. I just fixed a 24mm f/1.4 L lens, it needed a new motor and I put that in and this lens turns out to be one of the best lenses I have, stunning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Keefer Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Here is a link to someone doing it themselves. Looks like a lot of screws and parts to take apart and remember how to put it back together correctly. LINK Cheers, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clark_roberts Posted November 30, 2017 Author Share Posted November 30, 2017 It's a lot of screws, I just called a place to repair it and they quoted me about $350.00 to get it done, Yikes!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian_donaldson3 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 For that price? Canon EOS 5D Digital SLR Camera Body {12.8 M/P} 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clark_roberts Posted December 1, 2017 Author Share Posted December 1, 2017 Oh I know, might as well get another one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul ron Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 just dont use those speeds anymore and shoot slower iso. i dont think ive ever used such fast shutter speeds.. ever. The more you say, the less people listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clark_roberts Posted December 2, 2017 Author Share Posted December 2, 2017 (edited) I opened a case file with ebay, to see if they could do anything for me, I'll wait and see. Your right if I stay below 1/4000 sec I'm good, I wonder how long this shutter will last? Edited December 2, 2017 by clark_roberts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen_h Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 I think I would not worry about it, and not use those shutter speeds. You needs to be a little careful in P mode, not to set a high ISO value, and force the high speed. As far as I know, I have never needed them with any of my cameras, and might not even know that they work. -- glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clark_roberts Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share Posted December 3, 2017 Thanks, but I opened the case and it seems ebay sided with me so I could return it, I'm going to look for one in nicer shape. will just have to look a bit harder at them. I'm just concerned that the shutter might get worse and I'll be out shooting and that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul ron Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) OOOOoooohhhh a recent purchase form flea bay....SEND IT BACK! When shopping for digital cameras, ask how many shutter actuation s it has. there is a counter built into the cameras and with some menu selection it will give you that information. Some cameras need some sort of software to access that info. Each manufaturer has a spec on the expected life of the shutter... contact them to find out what the specs are. Edited December 4, 2017 by paul ron The more you say, the less people listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clark_roberts Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 Canon's seem to block that, I tried down loading a picture on one of the websites and came up blank, plus I mailed the camera back today to the seller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clark_roberts Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 Just a update on my 5D, I sent it back and received a refund from ebay, then I went on and for a few dollars more I purchased a like new 5D, not a mark on it and all the shutter speeds work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Keefer Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Just a update on my 5D, I sent it back and received a refund from ebay, then I went on and for a few dollars more I purchased a like new 5D, not a mark on it and all the shutter speeds work. That is good news. :-) Cheers, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clark_roberts Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 Yes I think I got lucky this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul ron Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 try finding its shutter actuation count? that may be in tye system menues or on canon site, there may be instructions how to find it. the shutters are rated for shutter actuations... like car mileage, they reach an end of life... its expected to die. replacement shutters can cost a few hundred bucks. The more you say, the less people listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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