robert_thommes Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 I understand that this lens is a real "bargin". A lens that's just "great for the price". And many of you have/had one. Other than for the lower light capabilities of the 50 1.8 lens, can you folks tell me why I should have one? And what about the comments, though it does open up to 1.8, it really "doesn't shine at that aperture, and should be stopped down once or twice to be any good"? Maybe this lens is not for me, but I'd like you to try and convince me that it is. This would be used on a 1.6X crop camera. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick_gerbehy1 Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 It's a bargain. You can find it for less than $80. It's OK with 1.8 for available light and at 5.6 it competes with the expensive Canon L glass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_thommes Posted March 17, 2008 Author Share Posted March 17, 2008 Rick, I know it's a bargin. But should I have one just because it cheap OR because I NEED it. I want to NEED it---and then--rejoice that it was such a good deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pascalharvey.com Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 On a 1.6x body, my main use for this lens is portrait. I have used it for some indoor sport photography too (volleyball). Other than that, it's a bit long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark u Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Do you find yourself constrained by aperture when using your 28-75 f/2.8 at 50mm or so? The constraint is more likely to arise from low light shooting at high ISO when you need a motion freezing shutter speed (e.g. indoor sport) and flash isn't a suitable solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bueh Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Well, it depends on your subject. If you shoot <a href="http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=783085"><b>portraiture</a></b> on a crop-factor camera you don't want to miss this focal length. If you need a different perspective or working distance get different prime lens. <p> I find the lens very good at f/1.8 and don't stop down much unless I need the depth-of-field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_mckone Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 You make a good point. You shouldn't buy a lens that you don't need, just because it's a bargain. And if you did need it, you wouldn't need any convincing. You're probably getting decent portraits with the lens you have, and depending on the subject, sharper isn't necessarily better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sattler123 Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Robert, if you don't know if you need that fast of a lens I'd say don't buy it. Why and how should we convince you to get this lens if you have no application for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjoseph7 Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 It's great for low light scenes. I use it to take photographs of paintings and other art works at musueums where flash is a no-no. It's very unobtrusive, you wouldn't want a bigger lens inside a Museum. On a 1.6X factor camera, it makes a great portrait lens. The contrast is simply amazing. On a FF camera it makes a good street lens. It's rather cheaply built, so take care not to drop it or it's all over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuppyDigs Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 I used an EF 50 1.8 for nearly 20 years: well made, fast aperture, small & light and natural perspective. It cost about $70 new in 1988. I sold it for $225 at FM when I decided to buy an EF 50 1.2L USM. Kinda miss it, especially after seeing how cheaply made the replacement is (EF 50 1.8 MKII). The original has a metal mount, distance and DOF scales, real MF ring and takes a clip-on ES-65 Hood (no adapter needed!). Sometimes the light’s all shining on me. Other times I can barely see. - Robert Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_stemberg Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 I think you already want one Robert, considering you have a 'classified' out for it.... and I won't try to convince you with any arguments but to say this lens isn't called 'plastic fantastic', 'the nifty fifty', or for the unashamed like me ...'the thrifty fifty' for nothing. I love mine ...and I ain't selling! :=) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_oleson Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 There are a few specific advantages that the 50/1.8 lens has, assuming you're interested in shooting at 50mm, compared to a zoom: 1. It's faster. (even if you shoot stopped down, this means better viewing and autofocus) 2. It's sharper. 3. It's smaller. 4. It's lighter. 5. It has less distortion. 6. It's generally less prone to flare. 7. It's cheaper. Other than that, I can't think of very much..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_wu6 Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 "Robert, if you don't know if you need that fast of a lens I'd say don't buy it. Why and how should we convince you to get this lens if you have no application for it?" I was going to response the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabbiinc Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 About the only thing that I dont like about this lens is that its not a zoom. I like it top to bottom otherwise. Have you ever had your current lens on your camera in Av mode, had the aperture wide open, and still wasnt shooting fast enough? Was it somewhere in the 50mm range give or take? If either one was a no, then you have your answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beauh44 Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Hi Robert, As others have pointed out, on a 1.6x camera, a 50mm lens is ideal for portraits. If you like to shoot available light, then an f/1.8 aperture is great to have. IMHO, those are the two, primary reasons to "need" this lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvw photo Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 I would get one, no thoughts necessary. Great portrait lens, esp for small sensor cameras. I use it in my studio. Here's me:<p> <a href="http://www.willems.ca/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/MW_0222-M.jpg">Me using 50mm 1.8 on DRebel XTi</a> <p> Not even on my 5D, just on an XTi! <p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_mccrary Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 i was going to post this question, but since it's already being discussed then i'll post in here: i have a friend who will sell me his 50mm 1.4 for $250......and i can't decide on wether to buy this prime only or buy the 1.8 and maybe another prime along with it? mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_barbu1 Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Won't be particularly good for much beyond portraits of single subjects. If you plan on doing group shots, interior architecture, or other such shots that require a wider focal length, you'll end up with a great value in a lens, but will never use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvw photo Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 MOst portraits are of one person surely. For that, it is a perfect lens, as in my example above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g dan mitchell Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 I cheap lens you don't need is just a cheap lens. On a crop body it can be useful as, for example, a portrait lens - though its general use for most photographers will be quite limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Yeah, if you can't figure out what to do with a nice fast, short telephoto portrait lens that has great IQ (and particularly compared to most zooms even today), then don't buy one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr._b Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 I have the MKI lens with metal mount, distance scale and proper focus wheel which I use on my 30D. Frankly, it's a bit too tight to be widely useful to me but I own one because it's the cheapest way to get good low light performance. Ultimately it is just about money for me. If I could afford the 35mm f/1.4L I'd happily unload my 50mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwaks Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Has anyone tried the 50mm 1.8 with a 25mm extension tube? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjferron Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 I recently purchased one with my new 5D/105 combo. Took it out of the box and declared it the cheapest built lens I have ever seen. Put it on the 5D and the mirror hung up. Checked the lens and the cheap plastic mount was warped and popped into place with some persuation by my thumb. Worked ok after that but I can't get over how *%$#% cheap it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvw photo Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Yes - but it takes portraits like no other. Here, this was tonight:<p> <a href="http://www.willems.ca/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/Lamoire_0233-medium.jpg">Mr Alexander</a> <p> And that is just on a little Digital Rebel XTi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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