ccrevasse Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 My 1Ds2 has recently developed an image flaw. Specifically, the upper edge (in landscape orientation) or left edge (in portrait orientation) of the image is degraded. The degradation extends along the entire edge of the image and is an even distance from the edge. In total it affects approximately 2-3% of the image. Basically, it looks like a thin, blurred, washed-out strip along the very edge. It appears in most but not all images, and may be worse at high ISOs and rapid frame rates. The lens does not seem to matter. I have installed the most recent firmware update and have not set any personal functions. The flaw also appears with images taken with the prior firmware. I shoot raw, and the flaw appears both in the raw preview and in the final jpeg, both with ACR and with RSE. I have never attempted to clean the sensor, and the camera has never been damaged. The flaw does not appear in earlier images. Any idea what this might be? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_chappell Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 <grasping at straws> Have you tried different CF cards? Doesn't seem likely but who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin conville Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 That is weird. I'd try a different card just to get that eliminated. Then I'd look (under magnification) at the sensor to see if (somehow) something is on there. Maybe something migrated (adhesive?) onto it. Last resort, send it in to Canon and hope they make good on it w/o too much pain. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccrevasse Posted October 14, 2005 Author Share Posted October 14, 2005 Yes -- the flaw appears both with my 2 gb SanDisk Extreme III CF card and my 1 gb Extreme III SD card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccrevasse Posted October 14, 2005 Author Share Posted October 14, 2005 FYI, I also posted this question at dpreview. Based on the responses of others who have experienced the same problem, the shutter is defective. Mine has only about 2000 actuations on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg s Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 Wild guess possibility = it may be a case of 'banding'. I see occassional banding in some of my low exposure, high ISO shots... a vertical stripe. Don't know exactly what causes it, but it seems like a stuck bit in a buffer (as if the threshhold for that buffer is stuck/wrong). Anyway, if a data transfer buffer in the cam wasn't worming correctly, it might cause problems that manifest themselves in visual patterns (a stripe being a pattern). I'd talk to the Canon shop and have them look at it. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg s Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 Take a look at this thread relating to a hot pixel, and the stripe that follows it. The pixel is easy to understand... the stripe less so. http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00DrEG When I see this kind of stuff it seems like a data transfer buffer with a stuck bit/channel/whatever_they_call_it So, if something like this can happen sporadically in one cam, it MIGHT be possible that it occurs more often in a buffer on another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byronlawrence Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 i want to grasp at a few more very unlikely straws, could it be some kind of degradation in the filters over the sensor on that edge.. like they have become 'unglued' or delaminated? or some other thing like that? I mention this because I have a pair of Ray Ban sunglasses that I left in the sun in my car once and the lens became delaminated around some of the edges (they are ugly now, but they still work so I use them on road trips). So maybe if you let your camera get hot or some other thing like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_tynan2 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 It could be a fault with the shutter. I've seen a similar thing as you describe on a high mileage 1Ds (mk1). But only at high shutter speeds. Apparently it's called shutter bounce and can affect newer cameras too. Here is a thread with some info at fredmiranda.com: http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:IGbJY60wBNkJ:www.fredmiranda.com/forum/next/236419+1ds+%22shutter+bounce%22&hl=en That is the cached version at google. The real link does not appear to be working at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenPapai Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 "A picture's worth a thousand words." Why is it so hard to post an example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger krueger Posted October 15, 2005 Share Posted October 15, 2005 My 1dsII does it too, although it's faint enough to only be a problem on really gross underexposure, where I'm really leaning on the gamma. I'm pretty sure it's the shutter bounce issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug_dolde Posted October 16, 2005 Share Posted October 16, 2005 Anything like what's being discussed on this thread? http://forums.robgalbraith.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=369282&an=0&page=1#369282 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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