johnnycake_.1 Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 I acknowledge that "this" posting is not a scientific investigation. I will further stipulate that I think any result should not be taken too seriously. [i don't want a fight.] Full disclose: I own both Leicas and Nikons (digital & film) and a couple of other brandnames, too. I will, of course, reveal the answer regardless of participation. Any other "examples" are encouraged! So, is the image B&W film or digital? What's your best guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnycake_.1 Posted October 18, 2006 Author Share Posted October 18, 2006 [internet problems today] Here's the photo:<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zapata_espinoza Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Digital. Otherwise I wouldn't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayh Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Send me a print and I will be able to tell you. Otherwise, anything posted on the internet is by necessity digital, whether direct digital capture or scanning a negative or print. Sort of a nonsensical challenge, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jochen_S Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 As far as I can tell the histogram looks well, all 256 values of grey scale are present. This is a lot but film should hold more than these (but p.net probably doesn't allow their presentation), so I can't tell what the source of these pixels might be. The black spot looks a bit like speck on a sensor. I don't know what the larger dot might be. Did it occur during film drying? - I'm confused. As long as 8 bit publishing is concerned the source of BW probably doesn't matter. I wish there were good BW digicams as cheap as color versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 It looks like film with the grain texture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_huff1 Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 this is digital Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don_e Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 http://www.exif.org/ -- Don E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnycake_.1 Posted October 18, 2006 Author Share Posted October 18, 2006 Don E , oct 18, 2006; 12:39 p.m. http://www.exif.org/ -- Don E Bluff? Or honorable? A "tip" of my hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig_Cooper11664875449 Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 I'll play, film... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig_Cooper11664875449 Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 ...I think not :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis1 Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 f i l m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnycake_.1 Posted October 18, 2006 Author Share Posted October 18, 2006 Craig Cooper , oct 18, 2006; 12:49 p.m.I'll play, film...Craig Cooper , oct 18, 2006; 01:01 p.m....I think not :) I envy your... sense of fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_. Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 i can, but not on a screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpo Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 I'd say it's digital, shot at 8:43AM on Oct 18 with your NIKON D2X and then grain was added using Adobe Photoshop CS2 in your Macintosh computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan_lee3 Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 I think that the oriignal image was digital capture based on the behavior of the highlights on the stair edge. I suppose that the "grain" was added after orignal capture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis1 Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 film, but contrast was added in PS to make it look like digital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_kaplan1 Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Neither! It's a sheet of fixed out and washed photo paper, with the image added by hand stippling India ink with a 6/0 spotting brush for a period of slightly over four hours... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnycake_.1 Posted October 18, 2006 Author Share Posted October 18, 2006 Wow! The world has done well! The answer at the end of the day (6PM EST, USA; ehhh, that's around dinner in these parts...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_vener_photography Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Let's see what file info in Photoshop CS2 says...<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don_e Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Johnnycake, The problem, as others have noted, is the output format which is digital, no matter the origin of the capture. Have you made a b&w optical print from a digital capture? I've not heard of anyone doing that via, say, a 35mm film recorder. -- Don E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnycake_.1 Posted October 18, 2006 Author Share Posted October 18, 2006 Al Kaplan - Miami, FL , oct 18, 2006; 01:41 p.m. Neither! It's a sheet of fixed out and washed photo paper, with the image added by hand stippling India ink with a 6/0 spotting brush for a period of slightly over four hours... Al... Very, very creative... but wrong! WADR, breathe deeply... (smile) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnycake_.1 Posted October 18, 2006 Author Share Posted October 18, 2006 Ellis Vener , oct 18, 2006; 01:47 p.m. Let's see what file info in Photoshop CS2 says... BUSTED! The image is Nikon digital and it was manipulated in PS/CS2. The world did OK. So, what to think: analog photography doesn't want to emulate digital BUT.... digital wants to achieve analog. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis1 Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Nissan or Toyota?<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnycake_.1 Posted October 18, 2006 Author Share Posted October 18, 2006 Travis . , oct 18, 2006; 02:09 p.m. Nissan or Toyota? I own 2 Toyotas and 1 Nissan. All are terrific cars. Do you mean to imply that Leicas and Nikons are equal? ...I agree, for the most part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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