Alex Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 This image looks good on my screen and very dark on a different screen. Can you tell me how this image looks to you. On my screen the darkest areas are at about 12 to 18 RGB. I fixed 6 of these Gorila pictures and all of them seem dark on this other screen. What bothers me the most is that I recntly got the Eye 1 to calibrate my monitor and I still seem to come up with dark pictures. Thanks for your comments Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted September 15, 2008 Author Share Posted September 15, 2008 Sorry. Here is the link for it. http://www.photo.net/photo/7837992 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronald_moravec1 Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 The problem is the gorilla is in shade and if it were lightened, the grass would be way too light. It can be improved with photoshop by raising the dark values only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann_clancy6 Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 it doesn;t look too dark on my screen, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vrankin Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 You've recorded your main subject (the gorilla) in rim lighting, meaning almost completely backlit. Throwing in some light with a high output fill flash or reflector would've helped. This is a tough lighting situation to photograph well. RAW might have helped some, but fill light was still needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheldonnalos Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Body of the gorilla looks too dark on my profiled screen. Not easily fixable in Photoshop, since there is not much separation of tones in the gorilla itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gt1 Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Body of the gorilla is too dark on my non-profiled work monitor and on my profiled home monitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_perlis Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 "Body of the gorilla looks too dark on my profiled screen. " On mine too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted September 16, 2008 Author Share Posted September 16, 2008 I got the raw file and there is no clipping. As a matter of fact I shot it to the right of the histogram (If recal correctly) I you guys care I can provide the file for someone to look at it. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed_ci Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 on a calibrated NEC 2490 in Firefox 2.0 and Safari, the image is not too dark. To me it appears that the gorilla is actually lacking true black (like Ronald M said : it looks like you increased the overall brightness of the image) which would lessen the black values. The dark areas I see are the ear, right chin and below tricep and leg crease. the ear oddly looks like they are PP edits. Also looked on my macbook pro and it looks the same as I describe above. hth ed I'd give the file edit a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petemillis Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 OK, so you exposed to the right, but that only means that the highlights (i.e. the gorilla's arse and the grass on the right) are on the right of the histogram. The rest of the gorilla is basically backlit and in the shade, and is too dark if what you want to show is the gorilla's features. However, the picture does clearly show a gorilla chilling out in the sun and trying to keep its head in the shade so perhaps it doesn't matter. Depends on what you wanted to achieve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckystokes Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Looks too dark on my calibrated screen as well. Took it into Photoshop Adjustments Shadow/Highlight. Could lighten up but then overall image was too flat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patricklavoie Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 on my every month calibrated nec 2690wuxi, calibrated at 2.2 and 6500 with a eye1 display pro the file look waayyyyyy too dark, not printable for sure, i mean too dark where you should see some detail on his chest..now i can barely see it, so it will not be printable. and believe me, i can trust my monitor. And it also look like the image was dark to start with and you use a tool to get some details back..that why its seem not to be real black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patricklavoie Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 a strong shadow / highligth reveal that you dont have detail at all in that area, and that it even seem blurry and patch. see here<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patricklavoie Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 + your image is save with a Adobe RGB profile, that make it look even darker than in reality.. let see if this one unretouched just convert to sRGB will look better<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patricklavoie Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 well, nope, look as dark as your original... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_bergman1 Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 It looked too dark on my calibrated screen. I still see some clipping in the highlights after adjustments. How does this look on your screen?<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frans_waterlander Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Here we go again... Chances are your monitor is set way to bright, causing you to edit your images too dark. Your monitor brightness should match the brightness of your digital darkroom lighting. Compare a totally white image on your monitor (all R, G, B values at 255) with a blank piece of printing paper illuminated by your digital darkroom lighting. Adjust your monitor and/or lighting if there is a mismatch. Don't use dimmers for your lights as they cause a dramatic change in color temperature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petemillis Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Don't know if this is any good, but just brought the "brightness" down a very small touch to get rid of the blown highlights, the clipped the dark end of the histogram to get some proper black back and did a histogram adjustment curve to boost mid darks and cut the lights, followed by a very slight boost in saturation to get back the colour in the grass. Saved as sRGB. I think it's ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petemillis Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 here's the pic...<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted September 16, 2008 Author Share Posted September 16, 2008 Thanks a million for the great feed back. Here is the raw file so you can see what is shoot. I like the get the best of it since it is the one I like the most. He seem so relaxed it looks like he is posing. I believe I went heavy handed. Again thanks for your time and efforts with this picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick_shanahan Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 This is a job for the local adjustment brush in Lightroom 2. You can paint that gorilla a bit brighter very easily... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted September 16, 2008 Author Share Posted September 16, 2008 Sorry here is the file Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted September 16, 2008 Author Share Posted September 16, 2008 How do you upload a raw file. I just tried 2 times and it does not seem to work out. I wrote on the answer box what you can see on the previous 2 postings, Clicked submit, then confirm and then I clicked on browse look up the file, name it and from there it does not seem to upload. I get some windows vista connection problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petemillis Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 It could well be too big. How about saving a copy as a TIFF and downsizing a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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