ken_schroeder Posted March 17, 2003 Share Posted March 17, 2003 My Zone VI/Wista camera originally came with a Zone VI tripod and Bogen 3047 head. It works well most of the time, but the "little" Tiltall gets more use away from the truck. I occasionally notice an annoying tendency for the camera to slip loose on the tripod head and rotate. My Wista has two tripod screw bushings for different balancing. The two holes are about 1 3/8" apart. I plan to thread a short bolt in the back hole from inside the camera, leaving the front threads protruding about a quarter inch. The radius of the table on the Tiltall is just over 1&5/8". I'll file a notch in the edge of the table for the protruding screw. The two point contact will prevent any slipping. The bolt could be switched to the middle hole, allowing the back bushing to be used to hold the camera. The bolt would then fit against the front of the revolved table. A socket head bolt (using an Allen hex wrench )could be used instead from beneath. The bolt could even be nylon. A shim with an edge could be made to keep 35mm cameras from slipping when used in vertical mode. I thought about posting this after the fact, but by posting it beforehand, I can benefit from your thoughts. I will certainly post the results. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedharris Posted March 17, 2003 Share Posted March 17, 2003 Hello Ken, As you may recall from the Tiltall discussion a few weeks ago I have one of the original models from teh 1950's. They originally came equipped with a thin blue rubber pad that fit on top of the head. My rubber pad died a few years ago and I cut a new one to replace it. With the rubber pad things don't move. Without it it is easily possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly_flanigan1 Posted March 17, 2003 Share Posted March 17, 2003 I replaced the blue pad on my tiltall with a circular piece of rough leather; and bonded it on with 5 minute epoxy; this was 3 decades ago. The tripod is from the late 1960's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly_flanigan1 Posted March 17, 2003 Share Posted March 17, 2003 Ken; how is the camera really slipping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonard_evens Posted March 17, 2003 Share Posted March 17, 2003 I long ago put some non slip self adhesive material on top of my Tiltall Professional. It is designed to be put on steps or other surfaces where people might slip and fall. You should be able to find such material at any good hardware store. I've haven't had any problems since then. The material has stuck to the tripod top for some 30 years, so I guess the self stick adhesive must be pretty good. One other minor problem I have with the Tiltall is that although the vertical locking screw is tightened down sufficiently to prevent vertical movement, it sometimes allows lateral rotation because of slippage. So it is worthwhile checking that you have tightened down sufficiently to prevent that. Also, with use the tripod surfaces tend to get slippery, possibly because a microscopic layer of aluminum wears off and acts as a lubricant or it just may be grime. It makes itself known as a black slightly greaselike layer which comes off with a good wiping down. So cleaning your tripod regularly can avoid that problem. I do it when I think of it, or when I seem to be having troubles, which means once a month or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcrisp Posted March 17, 2003 Share Posted March 17, 2003 Ken: For non-slip material try a cheap ping pong paddle from a sporting good store. The pebbly rubber surface peels off and makes a very good tripod surface to stop rotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken_schroeder Posted March 17, 2003 Author Share Posted March 17, 2003 Thanks, everyone for your thoughts. I think I'll try replacing the worn rubber surface before trying anything more major. I got a chuckle from your responses....I guess any repair which hasn't been around for at least three decades is still iffy! It's refreshing to see what I call the 1940s Popular Mechanics Home Wisdom still alive and well in our fast paced throw away world. ps....I have noticed the guys who have made good repairs on their tripods spell well, too. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conrad_hoffman Posted March 17, 2003 Share Posted March 17, 2003 One more note about the Tiltall. Mine is a Marchioni from about 1971. Eventually the felt ring in the lower end of the slide tube will get loose. When it does, the tripod will appear to work normally, but will have little damping to kill vibration. Be sure that felt ring offers some resistance when you raise and lower the column, or try wiggling the post where it exits the tube at the bottom. This is a problem even if the column isn't raised, so it's worth checking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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