everheul Posted June 2, 2003 Share Posted June 2, 2003 At a wedding from hell, I accidentally shot a 220 roll of 6x7 portra 160 at 320 (the speed i usually shoot my portra 400). I have searched this sight about pushing c-41 in general and know it's possible. Is it better to push this particular film 1 stop, or is it better to process normally and pray for enough detail in the shadows to get an "acceptible" set of prints? The largest enlargement I expect from this roll of mostly candids is 8x10 (I seriously doubt much more than 5x7 will be warrented) Thank God I don't shoot weddings for a living. Hats off to those of you who do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbq Posted June 2, 2003 Share Posted June 2, 2003 I'm no expert here, so don't take what I say as the definitive answer. My general instinct tells me to not leave C-41 underexposed, and that it's probably better to push it. I don't have any experience at all with the film you're mentioning, just that of a guy who noticed on his scanner that it's harder to get anything good out of underexposed C-41. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_mest Posted June 2, 2003 Share Posted June 2, 2003 Give Kodak a call, they are very helpful with questions like this. Portra is a very forgiving film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dermot_conlan4 Posted June 2, 2003 Share Posted June 2, 2003 Go to a pro lab and ask for a clip test pushed one stop...you will then see the first few frames and make your decision from there. You will loose a frame as the tech cuts the film in the dark, you did say they were candids. If you are nervous about this don't worry these guys do it every day for pro commercial shooters normally with E-6. Go in and talk to them explain the situation and sleep easier....it takes years of experience to become a good wedding photographer, just like everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_levine Posted June 2, 2003 Share Posted June 2, 2003 A lot depends on how you exposed this film.Did you use flash?Were they shot under high contrast conditions?A film's latitude is directly related to the "brightness range" of the scene.If the conditions were high key and high medium contrast,a 1 stop underexposure should print okay.If you shot in low light,with high contrast,the film will have less latitude.Then you might want to consider altering processing times(pushing).At weddings,I always over expose a stop or so by firing more flash and allowing more ambient exposure.This assures good shadow detail,and in your case would have saved your butt.As far as pushing C41 materials,neither Kodak or Fuji really reccomends this.The emulsion's different layers can react unevenly to the extra development resulting in shifted color.Of course with todays lab technology(Frontier's & Noritsu's)almost any deviations in color can be corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavin martin Posted June 2, 2003 Share Posted June 2, 2003 Calm, everyone's done it at some point. Get a Clip test. My thought is to push it, most print films push ok at least a stop if not two. I've done it a few times with Landscapes & Portraits when caught with the wrong film at the right time. A slight change in the grain & contrast will result Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afs760bf Posted June 2, 2003 Share Posted June 2, 2003 Portra pushes very well at one or even two stops. I would push it. Or you can get a clip test, but you don't have many frames to work with on a roll of 220. Best, Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_m__toronto_ Posted June 2, 2003 Share Posted June 2, 2003 i pushed film like this successfuly, main thing is to ask the lab and find one that is competant...no wal mart or costco here... m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_kaplan1 Posted June 2, 2003 Share Posted June 2, 2003 Rather than clipping the roll you shot, why not do some test shots on another roll of the same film? Same settings, same flash, etc. and that way you won't risk clipping through an important shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack_chase Posted June 3, 2003 Share Posted June 3, 2003 My experience with the Portra films is that they are optimistic in their ISO ratings. I usually rate 400 at 250. I accidentally exposed some Portra 160 at 250, and got very thin negatives. Not good! I would go ahead and push it one stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
everheul Posted June 3, 2003 Author Share Posted June 3, 2003 Thanks all for the advice. I will push the roll by a stop. For future weddings, I'll use only one film speed to avoid this mistaks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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