Buying used: D300 or D2X?

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by kdghantous, May 3, 2009.

  1. The D300 and D2X are about the same price second-hand. The D300 is newer, has a better LCD and you have the option of whether or not you want the extra battery pack or not. The D2X is tougher.
    I already have a D200 and I think the battery pack and batteries are compatible with the D300.
    Right now I'm in favour of the D300. Ideas?
     
  2. Karim,
    I have the D300, and had the same considerations as you. I ended with the D300 because of the somewhat better high-ISO capabilities, as well as the detachable battery pack. I have not regretted one minute.

    The D300 uses the EN-EL3e batteries which are the same as your D200. However, the D300 uses the MB-D10 batterypack, which is not compatible with the D200. The D300 and D700 uses the same battery pack.
     
  3. I also forgot: D300 is also a tough little guy, and with the MD-D10, is approx. the same weight as a D2X, as far as I remember. Heavy enough to punch yourself out of bad situations ;) ;)
     
  4. mvp

    mvp

    Hi,
    I have the D300 and aim to finally be able to afford full frame with the D700 or the following model (maybeD800?) and then use it with the MB-D10.
    The D2x is classic and probably more "compact" than the combination with the battery pack. If I would buy it now then only to "have" it as she is still one of my first ladies!
    Going forward and aiming for better image quality I would try to get my hands on the D700 (maybe used). I thought the high-ISO capabilities on the D300 were good and they are comparing tot he D200 but it is nothing in comparisson with the D700.
    I hope that helped ; )
    Best Regards,
    Markus
     
  5. Karim,
    The D200 battery pack is not compatible with the D300. I'd never use battery pack compatibility as a factor in making such a decision.
    The D300 is quite a robust body- I'd have no concerns as to it's durability. The D300 has a more advanced sensor and superior AF system to the D2x I can't see much of a contest - the D2x was a fabulous unit in it's day but has been superceed in the performance stakes by the D300. I'd stay in favour of the D300 if I were you.
     
  6. D300 easy. Better AF, better high ISO, newer sensor technology, and the flexibility to take that battery pack off. No contest.
     
  7. Both are very good cameras, D300 has less noise at higher iso settings and a faster frame rate, 8 with the mb-d10 option. D2X with the built in motor is a little more rugged.
    http://www.slopoki1.smugmug.com/
     
  8. A lot of people considder the D2X a better camera, special for low isoos, caused by the build-in grip.
     
  9. ShunCheung

    ShunCheung Administrator

    I am not sure there are indeed "a lot of people" consider the D2X a "better" camera. There is exactly one person who routinly recommends the D2X over the D300. There are a few people who prefer the D2X's ISO 100, which is only available on the D300 as Low 1. The base ISO for the D300 is 200.
    Otherwise, this same question has been asked in photo.net quite a few times and the overwhelming majority recommend the D300. You can do a little search for those answers yourself. I still own both cameras and I have almost never used the D2X again ever since I bought the D300: 8 frames/sec, much better high ISO results, much improved LCD, flexability of the grip .... To me, it is a no brainer, but that is merely my opinion. The majority's recommendation is no more than merely a recommendation; it is your own opinion that really counts.
    Incidentally, as it has been pointed out, the D300 uses the MB-D10 grip that is not compatible with the D200. The D300 and D700 use that same grip, though.
     
  10. There are lots of D300 versus D2X threads. I will make my usual argument for the D2X. A year ago I bought a used D2X over a new D300 and have never regretted it. I have large hands so it is a better fit for me. A few will insist the viewfinders are the same but after comparing carefully I found the viewfinder of the D2X noticeably better for using my progressive eyeglasses. Of course the robust build is outstanding. Since 99% of my images are taken at ISO 100 I was also extremely relieved to read recent reviews that fall in favour of the D2X at low ISO settings. I know the D300 likely has the same feature but what really impressed me about the D2X is that when I change the aperture on my manual lenses it changes the aperture readout in the viewfinder and is linked to the light meter. It actually took me 8 months to realize this! I currently have 5 manual lenses and anticipate adding a few more. I think the D2X does allow for programming in more manual lenses than the D300. Yesterday I placed an order with keh.com for a Nikon TC-16A which will provide some autofocus capability with my manual lenses. I believe the D2X was the last body to support this converter without dismantling and rewiring the converter. I have no idea how long the batteries of the D300 last but the one I have for the D2X lasts for what seems forever! It had no problems at -20 Celcius this winter and in the height of my shooting season in summer with several thousand pictures per month it only needed recharging once or twice a month! An auto race week-end for me is likely 1000-1500 images with no recharging required, of course I am not using any autofocus motors either!
    If high ISO is a frequent and necessary requirement for your shooting interests then the D300 may be the way to go.
    P.S. I would be the "one" that Shun referred too. I have been doing chores around the house while typing this and missed Shun's post. Have a great day, all!
     
  11. They are different cameras, made for somewhat different purposes, and yet you gave us no idea what you want to do with the camera? Can't make any recommendation because I have nothing to go on.
    Kent in SD
     
  12. It would appear that John Crowe has never owned a D300, or used it extensively. I would put much more value in Shun Cheung's opinion. Shun owns both and has considerable experience shooting each one. I just don't see how John Crowe can recommend the D2X over the D300 without having had considerable personal experience with each.
     
  13. well, i can recommend the D300 over the D2X having never shot a D2X. the key sentence in john's post is: "i shoot at iso 100 99% of the time." if that describes your shooting style, and you like the built-in grip, go for the D2X. othewrwise, go for the D300.
     
  14. I don't get why there's even a debate. The D300 is way newer, the AF is way better, the LCD is way better, the processing is way newer, it has more dynamic range.
    Sorry, I can't see where there is anything to gain by getting a D2X unless you need to drive nails with it or bang it around like crazy.
     
  15. I have both, and I'd say D300, for basically the reasons people are saying.
    To clarify a few things from Mr. Crowe's post: D300 displays f/stop from manual focus lenses as well. And D300 programming of manual lenses is more flexible than the D2x. First, you can enter multiple lenses of the same focal length (I have both a 35/2 and a 35/2.8 T/S and I can enter both, which is nice). Second, on the D2x if you have say, a 50 and a 135, you have to scroll through all the intermediate focal lengths to get between them (55,58,70,80,85,86,100,105). On the newer bodies you just scroll through the one's you have inputted.
    j
     
  16. I don't have extensive experience with the D300, but I had chances to try my friend's D2X before buying one for myself.
    I absolutely love the D2X at 100 ISO. I might say I bought the D2X for the ISO 100 alone. Judging from numerous samples on the web, I find the D300 color is too red. At least if I someday buy a D300, I won't use its default color setting, or I would shoot RAW and tweak the color later.
    However, I think I and John Crowe belong to a minority group who prefer the D2X. I think for most people the D300 is a better all-around camera. But still, if you have a chance, give the D2X a try before you decide.
     
  17. Got them both, it's the D300 hands down (ouch, the D2X was $4500)!
     
  18. OPK

    OPK

    D300 is regarded as a D2X killer - new technology and smaller body :)
     
  19. Agree with Peter Hamm. Cant understand why you would want to compare these two camera's and even consider the D2x. It is yesterday's technology !
     
  20. I would choose the D2x purely on reasons of image quality at base iso's. I have the D300 and D700 but there is something on the clarity of pictures from the old D2x that I ust cannot match with the newer cameras. Not that I regret having it replaced by the D300 (much more useable), but in several ocasions I just miss the D2x files. Try them both yourself before you make choice if you can.
     
  21. ShunCheung

    ShunCheung Administrator

    I have the D300 and D700 but there is something on the clarity of pictures from the old D2x that I ust cannot match with the newer cameras.​
    I have absolutely no idea what you are referring to. I too have my own D300 and D700, and the D2X that I haven't used in well over a year. In the last two weeks I have been testing a D3X and I used two different D3's from Nikon USA. All of those cameras are fine at their base ISO. There is nothing from the D2X's base ISO that I miss on the D300.
     
  22. He said, she said. Sheesh. OK, here's a comprehensive comparison from a premier source. You cannot get much more OCD than this, to a good end, but it covers everything. If you really want ISO 100, say to slow shutter speed for a water falls, one could get a one stop neutral density filter for the D300, still have a lot of $ leftover. One wants the D2x's color profiles instead of the D300's or ones that one could contour on one's own -- beyond my patience for in camera tinkering, but it can be done? Then, one can simply download from Nikon the three, free, D2x optional Picture Controls for the camera (and for Capture NX2 if shooting in raw) that produce results that emulate the corresponding "Color mode" settings for the D2X and D2XS for modes 1,2, and 3. It became a no brainer for me. The D2x is much bigger though, and does have a bigger battery. A style statement? I suppose the price comes down if the D2x is used.
    http://www.bythom.com/nikond300review.htm
     
  23. Thom Hogan said he slightly prefers the D2X over any 12 Mp camera from Nikon (@his D3x review). I was torn between the D2X and D300, but reading what Thom Hogan, Iliah Borg (dpreview), and some others said about the D2x performance at 100 iso made me decide to go for it.
    Believe it or not, this photo is one of the reason for me to choose the D2X (among many other photos).There is some thing very special about it. I could not tell whether it's the micro contrast, color separation, or whatever. I just like it very much:
    http://a.img-dpreview.com/gallery/nikond2x_samples/originals/dsc_0330.jpg
     
  24. I think I'll go for the D300, bargain D2X pending. But I'm glad I asked. There is no such thing as a simple answer.
     
  25. You'll love the D300. I know I do.
     
  26. Here's a different opinion than the one mentioned above on Thom Hogan's website (the quote below is also from bythom.com):
    Bottom line: the D2x is an excellent value at the current used prices (US$1500-1800), making this a very tough choice. For me, the smaller form factor, lighter carry weight, and high ISO capabilities give the nod to the D300, but I'm still very happy with my D2x for landscape work.​
     
  27. The D2x is a fine camera if you understand its limitations and use it within its constraints. But it is pointless trying to argue that the D300 is better.
    I had a chance to try out the D300 and I can definitely recommend it.
     
  28. I had the choice between a D300 and a D2X- I chose the D2X.
    I know some people say the viewfinder is the same, and that the autofocus is better, but I personally like the autofocus of the D2X more, and to be honest I can't see myself ever needing better autofocus than the D2X gives.
    The other thing that swayed me was obviously the quality at low ISO which suits my style of extremely sharp long exposures at night. The D2X is great at this, and the fantastic battery also means that I can take lots of them before needing to recharge.
    I like the smaller size of the D300 however I REALLY dislike the controls of it after having used it for a while. I also find I don't like the controls of the D3 that much but they are better than the D300.
    One thing I really dislike about the D300 is the pop up flash. I consider it useful however it is VERY flimsy and I feel like it would get broken off and expose my camera to rainwater and etc.. Not good. I'd rather pop an SB-400 on the top of my camera if I need a party flash.
    The high ISO of the D300 is definitely better than the D2X but I think it's a bad reason to get the camera unless you need the crop factor. If you want truly better ISO performance get a D3 or D700 which blow both the D2X and D300 out of the water.
    Just my opinion. I am not some super pro, I am just a guy that chose the D2X over the D300.
     
  29. I had both, and when I did the side by side comparison, at ISO 100 and 200 I sold the D300, and bought another D2xs.
    I simply fell in love with this Camera, and I totally agree with all the pros and cons mentioned, but I guess it's a personal preference/ feel. I usually never exceed the 400 ISO, but honestly lately after seeing some of the D3 images, I'm reconsidering.
    What makes me miss my D300 is the size, specially that I shoot a lot of Panos and VRs, and with the brackets I have the D2x is too big/ heavy to mount them on.
    So, bottom line, I do miss my D300, miss the larger LCD, beside the battery pack of the D300 is compatible with the D700, if ever you plan on having an FX.
    But I'm still keeping my D2xs' and hope to be able to keep them and go for an FX body.
     
  30. please feel free checking my Flikr
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/40903879@N00/4064911690/
    you'll find some D2x shots and go for larger sizes
    Thanks
     

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