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Brian, a big thank you for your changes to the TRP!


robertbrown

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I just wanted to post a public thank you for making some changes to

the TRP. While the photographs may not be better (I have a

suggestion to improve that), it is certainly a much fairer way of

doing things. I, and many other dedicated PN users, are very happy

to see a wide variety of photographers and photographic styles now

being featured. Bravo!

 

And for those who like to mate rate, they can just click on average

and pretend nothing has changed, though I'm sure the mate rating

brings far less satisfaction than it did before.

 

One suggestion to improve the top rated page is to make sure all

photos get their fair share of rates in the RFC. If people (friends,

fans, mates) rate outside of the queue, it shouldn't count toward

their RFC quota. I see many semi-popular photographers with only 3

RFC rates vs. 13 rates total. People should not be penalized for for

being popular, just as they shouldn't be rewarded for being popular.

 

Thanks again Brian for listening.

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One big difference I have found is that most of the images you click

on the front page of the TRP have at least one really useful

critique. For someone like myself that doesn't know too much, that's

really useful stuff.

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I'm a little confused. Has the TRP really changed or did PN just change which page comes up on the front page when you select "Top Photos"? I think this was discussed in an earlier thread. I believe it was confirmed that they changed the selection in the "By" drop down menu to "rate recent sum" from "Average". Is the "rate recent sum" selection new? Or have we had the choice all along to select this ourselves? Whatever the answer, it is refreshing. I have occasionally used the "Period" & "By" drop down menus to view different arrangements of images, but I agree, I like PN's new choice of front page. Insightful change.
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Jayme,

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I think those additional options arrived a month or two before the

"Rate Recent Sum" became the default. At least, that's when I first

noticed them.

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I also get the feeling this is a tempory thing though don't know

why.

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<p>While I respect, the views of all the people here, I fail to see how a default "Rate Recent by Sum" it more interesting or better. All it tell me is that we have added some randomness to the photos being shown on default page on TRP. For example a mediocre work getting 12 ratings of 3 & 3 will show up before a better executed photograph of getting 5 ratings of 6 & 6. If our intent was to add randomness to the process, them why not select a fair random algorithm and display the photo on default TRP?</p>

<p>I know this is may make me unpopular, but I for one don't believe that I am seeing more interesting photos on the default page of TRP. All I am seeing are some good photos, mixed with some random mediocre work inserted in between. Did I get my assesment wrong?</p>

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Jay, I agree with some of what you're saying. The current default view is a BIG step in the right direction, but I feel it does need some minor tweaking. You're right, of course, in your example about using the sum rather than the average - many highly ranking photo's are floundering on the lower pages due to not receiving as MANY rates.
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I have to say, I got a mighty big, petty chuckle out of hitting "previous" on the TRP page and a notorious mate rater who always has one, two, or three photos on the front page, with several pictures on the last page, and to be honest, they the images looked perfectly in context with the others.
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