Brad Cloven Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 <p>Having been motivated by the quality of the B&W work in this forum, I shot my first roll since the 1980s. I would very much appreciate a review of my results, with two things in mind:</p> <p>1) What can I do to improve what you're seeing?<br> 2) What do you see that is working?</p> <p>If you would be so kind as to offer your opinions and guidance, I can improve on subsequent rolls. </p> <p>These shots were taken on TMAX 400 processed and scanned at NCPS. The camera was a lowly Pentax MG, mainly because I can throw it in my bike bag and not worry if it gets crushed. It was essentially free to me. The lens is almost always the Pentax-M 28mm f2.8, which accounts for some distortion, but necessary in some cityscapes. The only post-processing was cropping. (I work on computers, so I keep them away from my hobby as much as I can). Most shots were hand held at f/8 and 1/250th to 1/1000th. I have no Black and White filters (orange or red, for example), so I think I suffer from "White Sky Syndrome".</p> <p>Thanks in advance for your consideration. Photos to follow.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Brad Cloven Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 <p><img src="http://d6d2h4gfvy8t8.cloudfront.net/18025436-lg.jpg" alt="" width="951" height="768" /></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donald_miller5 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 <p>nice</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User_5050610 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 <p>Brad--tones and contrast looks great to me! Congrats..I really like the train tracks, the building and the car. You're doing quite well, I'd say.<br> Paul</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Gammill Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 <p>Nice images. The first image held the skies well even without a filter. Thanks for posting. And please continue to share images. I would invite you to participate in our weekly thread: Classic Manual Camera weekend.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subbarayan_prasanna Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 <p>Very nice images <strong>Brad</strong>! I perceive that you are facing the same problems that many of us do with high contrast scenes, that of balancing the highlight areas with the dark ones. I did some reading on this and found that films are made to take a maximum range of only 5 basic gray shades, on a gray scale of 1 to 10 [old fashioned]. So it was suggested that I choose scenes that would fall within that range of 4 or 5 gray shades.<br> In addition, your pictures show a high contrast range of tones. The old time photographers used less contrast to depict such scenes in gray. Many in the 19th Century used a soft Sepia for the landscapes. I like your pictures, anyway. Thanks for the post. sp.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen t Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 <p>I think they are great. Congrats.</p> <p>I'm considering trying Diafine with PanF+ in 35mm. I believe it is supposed to tame the high contrast scenes a bit, even though I really like high contrast scenes! So I will probably shoot the PanF+ in one body, and shoot the same scene, same lens, different body loaded with FP4+ and developed in Rodinal or HC110. THAT should make for an interesting comparison.</p> <p>Welcome back to film, and again, great images.</p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick_drawbridge Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 <p>You certainly have a good eye for a picture, <strong>Brad</strong>; there are some great angles here. For images straight off a commercial scanner, I feel they're surprisingly good; without the post-processing it's rather like looking at contact prints as opposed to enlargements, worked over in the darkroom. Overall, the tones are bright and punchy, and the images have a sharp, clean look. As you note, even a yellow filter would have helped with your skies, but it's no big deal in these sorts of locations. From a personal standpoint, I'd be itching to see what I could do with my editing tools, but each to his own. Keep them coming!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vrankin Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 <p>They look technically very good to me. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew in Austin Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 <p>My favorite is the one with the reflection off the window. I'm 62 and also wear a bicycle helmet on my way to work.</p> <p>It's good that folks are rediscovering B&W film. For me the independent work-flow is a plus. My color lab occasionally scratches my film.</p> <p>BTW - I sometimes will scan a color neg and set the output to 16 bit gray - which is a lot less hassle than printing to Kodak Panalure, an RC paper that has been long discontinued.</p> Best Regards - Andrew in Austin, TX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanKlein Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 <p>Nice shots. Sharp; nice contrast; well done.</p> <p>Love the sports car.</p> Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/photos/alanklein2000/albums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andresfaya Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 I am close to your way of thinking. I do develop and scan myself on a flatbed but on post I crop and adjust the levels. I do this because it is similar to what I get when printing in the darkroom. In the darkroom I can actually get an even better detail out of the shadows with a little dodging. I've been trying tmax and its great. It just wears out the fixer much faster and needs extra long washes. You have a great eye for those shots that I hope I would also have. I do believe you are on the right path if not there already so keep posting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 <p>If YOU like them, then that's all that matters. If you don't like them, then decide what you don't like and do it some other way. What I think doesn't matter.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony_lockerbie Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 <p>They look really good to me,and it's hard to criticize, apart from your aforementioned wonky angles. Also good to keep large dark areas from dominating, especially in the foreground. Keep at it, and if this is just a start then you are well on the way!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick_drawbridge Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 <p><strong>Brad</strong>, I can't reply to your email as your filters seem to block mine, according to Photo.net mail service. Please excuse this post, mods, as I can see no other way of responding to a member's query.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aplumpton Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 <p>I missed the original post but saw it via Rick's site. Nice images and I think you did about as well as the lighting conditions provided, by giving some prominence to the shadow regions over the highlights. The first image seems to suggest that, as the while building in the background shows no texture of the materials on its visible bright side (I went to your portfolio to see a moderate blow up of the image). If you continue with B&W you might try slower higher resolution films and try color filters (yellow-orange, medium red) and even a soft graduated ND filter to compensate a bit for bright skies.</p> <p>Very fine first attempts!</p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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