JDMvW Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 <p>This might be “Cameras in Movies, Part n+6” but it tags on an earlier post.<br /><br />Waay back in 2011, I did a report on the Stereo Realist, made by David White Co., 1947-1971 ( http://www.photo.net/classic-cameras-forum/00YCII ). <br /><br /><br />As a sort of Easter Egg, I mentioned that the Stereo Realist was the camera used in the movie <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Them!"><em>Them!</em></a> [1954] by Dr. Pat Medford (an entomologist with the Department of Agriculture, working with her father, Dr. Harold Medford the “foremost myrmecologist”).<br /><br /><em><strong>Them!</strong></em> is arguably the first, and certainly the best, of the “Big Bug” movies of the 1950s. It was originally meant to have been a 3D color film, but the craze was dying, so it was shot at the last minute in B&W mono, although a number of ‘stereo’ cliches of things coming at you in the picture were filmed. I have seen it stated that there actually was a second camera, but the film from it is not known to have survived. A tragic loss to those of us who love both stereo and big bugs. <br /><br /><br />Here is Dr. Pat Medford (Joan Weldon) taking a picture of the giant ants’ “egg chamber” with the Stereo Realist. With her are the lead of the film, James Whitmore (as Sergeant Ben Peterson of the New Mexico police), and James Arness as the FBI agent Robert Graham. John Wayne is <em>said</em> to have seen Arness in this film, and from that recommended him for the role of Matt Dillon in <em>Gunsmoke</em>, Arness’s signature role (after the <em>Thing</em> [1951], of course). [Disney supposedly found Fess Parker from a small role in this film, and there is a brief appearance by Leonard Nimoy].<br /><br /></p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted December 7, 2014 Author Share Posted December 7, 2014 <p>A Stereo Realist, of course, would have been very appropriate for a movie shot in stereo, as this one was planned to have been. <br /><br />However, was this actual “product placement”? In 1954, it might have been.<br> I had always noted that the prints from the Stereo Realist, on the other hand were simply 8x10 glossies, as shown here.<br /><br /></p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted December 7, 2014 Author Share Posted December 7, 2014 <p>However, only recently did I become aware that there were more film references to the Stereo Realist products. Here, as Dr, Harold Medford (Edmund Gwenn) examines the prints, in the background you can see Gen. O'Brien (Onslow Stevens) looking through a Stereo Realist viewer - whether it is a red-button viewer or a green-button viewer, I cannot say. These things do matter to Stereo Realist collectors (yes, Virginia, there are Stereo Realist collectors).<br /><br /></p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted December 7, 2014 Author Share Posted December 7, 2014 <p>However the ultimate in “product placement,” if that is what it is, is in the same scene as General O’Brien lowers his viewer, while Major Kibbee (Sean McClory) looks at a mounted Stereo Realist slide on the left, and there is another viewer at the elbow of Dr. Pat Medford.<br /><br /></p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted December 7, 2014 Author Share Posted December 7, 2014 <p>Well, that’s enough, but I thought it might as well be on the record.<br /><br /></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick_drawbridge Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 <p>Oddly enough, I've just been reading an article on the development and demise of the Stereo Realist, including the celebrity-orientated advertsing philosophy of the David White Company and it's ad men, and quite a tale it is. I can easily believe that there was an element of product placement at work, here. Interesting post, <strong>JDM</strong>; I never had the pleasure of watching the movie, but then I'm not overly fond of ants, giant or otherwise...</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgussin Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 I got me one!<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Deary Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 <p>I don't think there is a simple answer for this but I will ask anyway. Is there a way to view 3D Realist images on a computer sceen without crossing one's eyes? It gives me a headache when I do this. If there was a viewing device out there, I would like to know as I have not only a Realist camera but a Kodak Stereo as well.</p> Dan Deary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnkenthill Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 <p>Daniel - I wonder if there is a way (should be) to create side-by-side high-def video of the stereo image that can then be view on a 3D high-def flat-screen. I've got to think it's possible although I've never looked into it. <br /><br />Interesting post JDM! </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanKlein Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 <p>"Them" - one of my favorites. "The Blob" with Steve McQueen before he became famous. Those were the days. A quarter for a Saturday afternoon at the movies, 2 main flicks, a few cartoons, shorts and "News of the Day". What a bargain for my folks to get rid of me and my sister for the afternoon. I wonder what they were up to?</p> Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/photos/alanklein2000/albums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted December 7, 2014 Author Share Posted December 7, 2014 <p>For the actual prints or stereo slides, you can use any of a number of viewers. Printed large enough, the old "stereopticon" will do just fine.</p> <p>But on a screen? You can try putting a piece of cardboard vertically between the two halves and bring your eyes up from that , but that has never worked too well for me.<br> Cross-eyed viewing is fairly easy for me after years of practice, but I can do the parallel viewing too, though most people find that somewhat harder.</p> <p>Of course, you can also make these into anaglyphic (red-green) images and view them with red-green glasses.</p> <p>Sorry.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_bergman1 Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 <p>JDM,</p> <p>Thanks for the nightmares, I mean memories. I remember these films from my childhood. The bug movies didn't really scare me. The giant tarantula did.</p> <p>Two movies that really affected me were War of the Worlds and Invaders from Mars. I really identified with the young boy from Invaders from Mars. I suppose that is what they wanted.</p> <p>I like these threads on old cameras and old movies.</p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Gammill Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 <p>Interesting, JDM. I always enjoy seeing classic gear used in movies from the same era. Thanks.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn McCreery Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 <p>If I copy and resize Robert's stereo image to something closer to actual eye width, its easier to view cross-eyed. I resized it below to 4 inch width. Unfortunately, when I do this, the background trees look closer to me than the girls on the rock!?</p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn McCreery Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 <p>Whoops, Photo.net resizes the image to fit. I will try again by pasting the image on a larger white background. Unfortunately, most of the 700 pixel width is now wasted on the white background so the resolution goes away. Try viewing it cross-eyed at a comfortable distance and then move your head in closer.</p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a._t._burke Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 <p>Mr. Hill.... I'm away from home in Florida so I don't have my good scanner with me. I did however make a fairly large version, side by side (not cross-eyed). The view is only 9666 pixels by 5702 pixels. I hope that is large enough for your purposes.</p> <p> <p>A. T. Burke</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted December 7, 2014 Author Share Posted December 7, 2014 <p>A famous sci-fi writer, Thomas M Disch, once said that the "golden age of science fiction was twelve". To which he added, "the age at which we began to read it". <br> I was twelve or thirteen when <em>Them!</em> was released. </p> <p>It's not the only reason I like the movie, however. It was surprisingly progressive for its time. Not only does it have a starring role for a woman scientist, but when the little girl is being treated in the hospital, her doctor is a woman MD. Efforts to say the nest is too dangerous for a woman, are brushed aside, and so on.</p> <p>Plus, when Dr. Harold Medford is telling the policemen where to shoot the giant ant, he distinguishes between the <em>antennae</em>, and then when one of them is shot, the other <em>antenna</em>. How can you not like that? :)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted December 7, 2014 Author Share Posted December 7, 2014 <p>Oh, here is a stereo view (X-view) of my Stereo Realist.</p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgussin Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 <p>Here's a parallel pair. I often make anaglyphs, but that requires the red blue glasses and messes with the colors.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgussin Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Here are two parallel versions. I have trouble with parallel; I usually make anaglyphs, but then the color is sketchy.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ken_jeanette1 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 <p>The amazing thing to me is our recurrent fascination with stereo photography. Civil war era, 1890's 1950s, even as recent as a few years ago, Fuji came out with digital stereo camera and viewer. (I bought the full set) Then there was stereo flat screen TVs. Stereo in movie theaters. They keep on coming to life, like the phoenix out of the ashes, only to crash and burn within a year or two. You'd think we'd learn, its a gimmick that will never be mainstream. We see in three dimensions, but we don't necessarily want to have our photos in three dimensions. This monster needs a stake through its heart to keep it down.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted December 8, 2014 Author Share Posted December 8, 2014 <blockquote> <p>We see in three dimensions, but we don't necessarily want to have our photos in three dimensions. This monster needs a stake through its heart to keep it down.</p> </blockquote> <p>I think it's more true to say we'd love to see our images in 3D, but without the apparatus and all required by even the most satisfactory 3D systems to date.</p> <p>It is because I know the history of 3D that I have only been to one 3D movie (Hobbit 2) and have not bought a 3D TV.<br> [that, and also because neither <em>Them!</em> or <em>It Came from Outer Space</em> (which was released in 3D) are available on media for 3D TV]. :)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James G. Dainis Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I haven't seen them in quite a while but there used to be 3D postcards and photos. You could look at the photo without any glasses or what ever and it looked like the flower was popping out of the photo. I think there was also a camera maybe back in the 1970s with required special processing that would allow you to take photos like that. What were those photos called? James G. Dainis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick_drawbridge Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 <p><strong>James</strong>, I suspect you're thinking of the "Nimslo" camera, circa 1980's, a camera using a lenticular system to produce 3D prints. Despite huge investment, the project was not a commercial success.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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