Best wide angle for 40d

Discussion in 'Canon EOS' started by duke_warren, May 15, 2009.

  1. Hello all,
    I'm no Pro here. Just your average shooter. I would like any feed back on the best wide angle lens for the 40d. I currently have a 70-200 2.8, a 70-300 5.6, and a 28-105, 3.5 to 4.5.
    I'm not sure what I should get. I've read that you get different results(since my 40d is not full frame) with different lenes. I have looked at the Canon 10-20, sigma 10-20, tokina 11-16. I would like something pretty wide. I guess I just need to know which lens will give me a wide angle close to the #'s on the lens (example I read the Canon 17-40 is not a true 17-40 on my camera).
    Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated.
    Thanks again, Duke
     
  2. The Tokina AT-X 11-16mm is consider by many "the best" super-wide angle zoom.
     
  3. Canon 10-22 EFS, great image quality.
     
  4. ditto.. 10-22 efs
     
  5. "...need to know which lens will give me a wide angle close to the #'s on the lens..."
    No lens will do that. Your camera has a sensor that is smaller than 35mm film, which reduces it's angle of view. And as far as angle of view goes, this effectively multiplies any lens' focal length 1.6x. So a 10mm lens has the same wide view as a 16mm lens does on a full frame camera.
    If you want really wide, I would stick with something that starts at 10mm. Tokina's 11-16 may be a better lens in some ways, but it is still about 10% less wide. That would make a difference to me. I sold a Tokina 12-24 to get the wider view of Canon's 10-22, and I wouldn't want to go back.
     
  6. Jim, So 16mm is as wide as the 10mm will be on my camera? I think that would be plenty wide for me. I had a 18-55 that I sold to help buy my 70-200 and at that time I thought it was giving me 18mm so the 10mm would be good for me. Does the 10-22 canon produce a good quality pic?
     
  7. 10mm is equivalent to a 35mm sensor camera 16mm, as noted
    In the old days a 27-8mm would have been considered a pretty wide lens for 24x36mm-sized film, You can reach that with a number of EF-S lenses that go from 17 or 18mm up to around 50mm. One of these, particularly the new "kit" lens which is 18-55 with image stabilization and is quite inexpensive might be enough for you.
    If you decide you do want an "ultrawide" you should also look at the latest 10-20mm Sigma lens. It's less money and has its own virtues.
     
  8. Another vote for the Tokina 11-16...I also have a 40D, it is plenty wide for me and I don't really need it to go to 20 or 22mm. I'm very happy with the image quality and would recommend it. I've rented the Sigma 10-20, but not used the canon.
     
  9. The Canon 10-22 on my 40D is just great, it's my favourite lens. If they had a mind to it they (Canon) would put a red ring on it but they don't on EFS lenses.
     
  10. EF-s 10-22 and EF 17-40 are both good from my experience, absolutely no issues. Just the difference that 17-40 may not be too wide for 40D.
    Vin
     
  11. Canon 17-55mm 2.8 or Tamron 17-50mm 2.8, both get you as wide as you'll probably be using on a regualr basis. Good luck!
     
  12. I have the 10-22 and simply can't praise it enough. Suffice to say that no other WA lens, from any company, tempt me to replace it.
    Happy shooting,
    Yakim.
     
  13. EF-S 10-22mm
     
  14. Sigma 10-20mm
     
  15. Another vote for the Canon 17-55. It's my favorite EF-S lens, by far. I don't think there is anything else in its class. The Tamron comes close, but lacks IS - which (I think) is worth the extra money. It's not perfect (not quite L build quality, expensive, and it lacks a hood), but it comes as close as anything I've seen.
    With the ultra-wides, as always, there are tradeoffs amongst the options. I've been debating this very subject as this is likely be my next purchase. The Canon has the widest zoom range and (arguably) the best build quality. The sigma comes close on zoom range, but is $200 cheaper. The Tokina has the narrowest zoom range, but a fixed 2.8 aperture (and is also $100 cheaper than the Canon). I think all of them are good lenses. I happen to have a penchant fixed aperture lenses... I know few people who have tried them that don't want to stick with them exclusively, and so I am leaning towards the Tokina, but haven't made up my mind for sure yet. As always, I would go to your local shop to see if you can try it out.
     
  16. Hi All,
    I am also looking to buy a wide zoom for 40D .. any comments about tokina 12-24 ?
     
  17. My wide lenses for my 40d inlude 17-40 f4L and Sigma 10-20 f4-5.6 EX
    Between the two I use the 17-40 the most.
     
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    any comments about tokina 12-24 ?​
    Within its limits -- f/4 and the 12-24mm focal length range -- it's a great lens. I find it pretty much flawless, the image quality is excellent and the build quality is high. The only drawbacks are the weight and size, but that's pretty much it.
     
  19. I've read that you get different results(since my D is not full frame) with different lenses.​
    Keep in mind that Canon sells 2 types of lenses, EFS and EF. EFS lenses are designed for use on Rebel or XXD Cameras such as your 40D. EFS lenses will not fit on Canon full frame cameras. EF lenses are designed for full frame cameras and will work on Rebel and XXD cameras. EF lenses will work on XXD and Rebel cameras. However because the sensor on Rebels or XXD cameras is smaller the focal length listed on the lens should be multiplied by 1.6 to determine the equivalent EFS lens focal length. For example:
    • The EF 17-40mm lens will appear on your camera as the equivalent of an EFS lens with a focal length of 27-64mm.
    • The EFS 10-20mm lens will appear on your camera as 10-20mm.
    On a full frame camera any lens with a focal length of less than 30mm is generally considered a wide angle. On your 40D that is equivalent to 19mm. If you want a wide angle Canon lens you only have 1 option. The EFS 10-20mm. However Sigma, Tokina, and Tamron all make lenses equivalent to EFS.
    • Sigma DC lenses are equivalent to EFS. Sigma DG lenses are equivalent to EF lenses. Sigma sells a 10-20mm DC lens.
    • Tamron Di II lenses are equivalent to EFS. Tamron Di lenses are equivalent to EF lenses. Tamron sells a 10-24mm Di II lens
    • Tokina calls their EFS equivalent lenses "Digital Only". Tokina AF lenses (only 2 are listed in the B&H catalog) are equivalent to EF lenses. Tokina sells a 11-16mm Digital Only lens.
    I hope this helps because you sound a little confused. But don't worry, you are not alone in your confusion.
     
  20. For the difference in price, I would go with the Tokina AT-X 11-16mm over the Canon 10-22. The Tokina is an excellent lens.
     
  21. I also bought the Tokina 11-16...its terrific...beautifully made. I mount in on a D300 and its sharper than the well regarded 14-24/2.8.
     
  22. Steven F, a few comments before this, made a small (but confusing) mistake in an otherwise good contribution:
    "The EFS 10-20mm lens will appear on your camera as 10-20mm"
    As he rightly says in his introduction, the 40D has a 1.6 crop factor, so 10-22 will appear as 16-35.
    You have a somewhat unusual collection of other lensen thought: with a 10-22, you'll still miss the 22-28mm range (35-45mm in 35mm equivalent), a fairly common range. But if you don't mind cropping a bit you could cover that with your wide-angle zoomed in.
     
  23. Oops....that should read: "....of other lenses though".
     
  24. I have had the Sigma 10 - 20 mm for several years now, first with my Canon 350D and now with 40D. I have found it a very good lens, and it is considerably cheaper than the nearest Canon equivalents. It is the only non Canon lens that I use. With such a wide angle lens IS is not so important.
     
  25. Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8 L II USM lens is to my opinion the best mid-wide zoom you can get. It is a 25.6-56mm mounted on a 40D. The down side to it is that it is quiet expensive. If you need a wider angle you should consider buying a full frame camera. Good luck for your choise.

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  26. I also vote for the canon 10-22mm. It's not given L glass designation but it quality is right there. Iv'e tried the sigma version (10-20) the canon was better IMHO. Good luck.
     
  27. Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8 L II USM
     
  28. Thanks to all for the very infomative info. Looks like I will be going with the EFS Canon 10-22mm since it is made for the smaller sensor and I will get a true 10mm out of it.
    Thanks again to all who replied....you have made my choice very easy.
     
  29. Looks like I will be going with the EFS Canon 10-22mm since it is made for the smaller sensor and I will get a true 10mm out of it.​
    No you will not..!
    Any 10mm lens on a 1.6x body will give you an effective 16mm. The "multiplier" doesn't go away just because you've put a certain lens on the camera - Steven F made an error in his comments, and Theo spells this out very clearly.
     
  30. Sorry guys, I did not catch the mistake. I think the 10mm will be what I'm looking for. As I said before I had a 18-55 and I liked it so if that was not a true 18-55 (on the small sensor) The 10mm will be excellant for me.
    Thanks again for keeping me straight and all the info.
     
  31. As I said before I had a 18-55 and I liked it so if that was not a true 18-55 (on the small sensor)​
    Just to muddy the water, of course the EF-S 18-55mm gives you true 18-55mm focal lengths! It is due to the smaller sensor that -- if you think of 35mm/full-frame format as standard -- the apparent field-of-view (and nothing else) is equivalent to a ~28-85mm lens in the larger format. Same goes for the 10mm, 12mm etc focal lengths.
     
  32. any sentace with 'best' and 'wideangle' in it, isn't going to include a zoom lens.
     
  33. I will add my vote for the Canon EFS 10-22mm lens. I absolutely love this lens, tack sharp. I think that the only thing missing is the red ring.
     
  34. I will add my vote for the Canon EFS 10-22mm lens. I absolutely love this lens, tack sharp. I think that the only thing missing is the red ring.
     
  35. One more vote for the Canon EFS 10-22mm .
     
  36. Canon 10-22. This was taken pressed against the glass.
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  37. If you don't need real wide angle, the EF 17-40 f/4L (around 28-64 for full frame) is a very good lens.
     
  38. Canon 10-22mm is the widest lens you can get for this camera. Well, except the Peleng 8mm fisheye. I love the Canon lens. Its super wide and has supurb image quality. It is NOT a fisheye, which I like because I do a lot of landscapes. If you want a fisheye, Canon makes a 15mm, but it doesn't have a great effect on the 40D with a crop sensor. I have heard people say the Peleng 8mm fisheye is fun to use, however I've never used one so I can't give my 2 cents about it.
     

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