duke_warren Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 <p>Hello all,<br> I'm no Pro here. Just your average shooter. I would like any feed back on the best wide angle lens for the 40d. I currently have a 70-200 2.8, a 70-300 5.6, and a 28-105, 3.5 to 4.5.<br>I'm not sure what I should get. I've read that you get different results(since my 40d is not full frame) with different lenes. I have looked at the Canon 10-20, sigma 10-20, tokina 11-16. I would like something pretty wide. I guess I just need to know which lens will give me a wide angle close to the #'s on the lens (example I read the Canon 17-40 is not a true 17-40 on my camera).<br>Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated.<br>Thanks again, Duke </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bueh Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 <p>The Tokina AT-X 11-16mm is consider by many "the best" super-wide angle zoom.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohammed_abidally Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 <p>Canon 10-22 EFS, great image quality.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_t5 Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 <p>ditto.. 10-22 efs</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimstrutz Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 <p>"...need to know which lens will give me a wide angle close to the #'s on the lens..."</p> <p>No lens will do that. Your camera has a sensor that is smaller than 35mm film, which reduces it's angle of view. And as far as angle of view goes, this effectively multiplies any lens' focal length 1.6x. So a 10mm lens has the same wide view as a 16mm lens does on a full frame camera.</p> <p>If you want really wide, I would stick with something that starts at 10mm. Tokina's 11-16 may be a better lens in some ways, but it is still about 10% less wide. That would make a difference to me. I sold a Tokina 12-24 to get the wider view of Canon's 10-22, and I wouldn't want to go back.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke_warren Posted May 15, 2009 Author Share Posted May 15, 2009 <p>Jim, So 16mm is as wide as the 10mm will be on my camera? I think that would be plenty wide for me. I had a 18-55 that I sold to help buy my 70-200 and at that time I thought it was giving me 18mm so the 10mm would be good for me. Does the 10-22 canon produce a good quality pic?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 <p>10mm is equivalent to a 35mm sensor camera 16mm, as noted</p> <p>In the old days a 27-8mm would have been considered a pretty wide lens for 24x36mm-sized film, You can reach that with a number of EF-S lenses that go from 17 or 18mm up to around 50mm. One of these, particularly the new "kit" lens which is 18-55 with image stabilization and is quite inexpensive might be enough for you.</p> <p>If you decide you do want an "ultrawide" you should also look at the latest 10-20mm Sigma lens. It's less money and has its own virtues.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathan_meador Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 <p>Another vote for the Tokina 11-16...I also have a 40D, it is plenty wide for me and I don't really need it to go to 20 or 22mm. I'm very happy with the image quality and would recommend it. I've rented the Sigma 10-20, but not used the canon. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffOwen Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 <p>The Canon 10-22 on my 40D is just great, it's my favourite lens. If they had a mind to it they (Canon) would put a red ring on it but they don't on EFS lenses.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vm1 Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 <p>EF-s 10-22 and EF 17-40 are both good from my experience, absolutely no issues. Just the difference that 17-40 may not be too wide for 40D.<br> Vin</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgpinc Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 <p>Canon 17-55mm 2.8 or Tamron 17-50mm 2.8, both get you as wide as you'll probably be using on a regualr basis. Good luck!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yakim_peled1 Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 <p dir="ltr">I have the 10-22 and simply can't praise it enough. Suffice to say that no other WA lens, from any company, tempt me to replace it. </p> <p dir="ltr"> </p> <p dir="ltr"> </p> <p dir="ltr"> </p> <p dir="ltr">Happy shooting,</p> <p dir="ltr">Yakim.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhut-nguyen Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 <p>EF-S 10-22mm</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timothy_keith Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 <p>Sigma 10-20mm</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff_bubis Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 <p>Another vote for the Canon 17-55. It's my favorite EF-S lens, by far. I don't think there is anything else in its class. The Tamron comes close, but lacks IS - which (I think) is worth the extra money. It's not perfect (not quite L build quality, expensive, and it lacks a hood), but it comes as close as anything I've seen.<br> With the ultra-wides, as always, there are tradeoffs amongst the options. I've been debating this very subject as this is likely be my next purchase. The Canon has the widest zoom range and (arguably) the best build quality. The sigma comes close on zoom range, but is $200 cheaper. The Tokina has the narrowest zoom range, but a fixed 2.8 aperture (and is also $100 cheaper than the Canon). I think all of them are good lenses. I happen to have a penchant fixed aperture lenses... I know few people who have tried them that don't want to stick with them exclusively, and so I am leaning towards the Tokina, but haven't made up my mind for sure yet. As always, I would go to your local shop to see if you can try it out.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suresh_nair2 Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 <p>Hi All,<br> I am also looking to buy a wide zoom for 40D .. any comments about tokina 12-24 ?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imadkhan Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 <p>My wide lenses for my 40d inlude 17-40 f4L and Sigma 10-20 f4-5.6 EX<br> Between the two I use the 17-40 the most.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bueh Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 <p><a href="../photo/8629871"><img src="http://d6d2h4gfvy8t8.cloudfront.net/8629871-sm.jpg" border="2" alt="" hspace="20" align="right" /></a></p> <blockquote> <p>any comments about tokina 12-24 ?</p> </blockquote> <p>Within its limits -- f/4 and the 12-24mm focal length range -- it's a great lens. I find it pretty much flawless, the image quality is excellent and the build quality is high. The only drawbacks are the weight and size, but that's pretty much it.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven_f1 Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 <blockquote> <p>I've read that you get different results(since my D is not full frame) with different lenses.</p> </blockquote> <p>Keep in mind that Canon sells 2 types of lenses, EFS and EF. EFS lenses are designed for use on Rebel or XXD Cameras such as your 40D. EFS lenses will not fit on Canon full frame cameras. EF lenses are designed for full frame cameras and will work on Rebel and XXD cameras. EF lenses will work on XXD and Rebel cameras. However because the sensor on Rebels or XXD cameras is smaller the focal length listed on the lens should be multiplied by 1.6 to determine the equivalent EFS lens focal length. For example:</p> <ul> <li>The EF 17-40mm lens will appear on your camera as the equivalent of an EFS lens with a focal length of 27-64mm.</li> <li>The EFS 10-20mm lens will appear on your camera as 10-20mm. </li> </ul> <p>On a full frame camera any lens with a focal length of less than 30mm is generally considered a wide angle. On your 40D that is equivalent to 19mm. If you want a wide angle Canon lens you only have 1 option. The EFS 10-20mm. However Sigma, Tokina, and Tamron all make lenses equivalent to EFS. </p> <ul> <li>Sigma DC lenses are equivalent to EFS. Sigma DG lenses are equivalent to EF lenses. Sigma sells a 10-20mm DC lens.</li> <li>Tamron Di II lenses are equivalent to EFS. Tamron Di lenses are equivalent to EF lenses. Tamron sells a 10-24mm Di II lens</li> <li>Tokina calls their EFS equivalent lenses "Digital Only". Tokina AF lenses (only 2 are listed in the B&H catalog) are equivalent to EF lenses. Tokina sells a 11-16mm Digital Only lens. </li> </ul> <p>I hope this helps because you sound a little confused. But don't worry, you are not alone in your confusion.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielleetaylor Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 <p>For the difference in price, I would go with the Tokina AT-X 11-16mm over the Canon 10-22. The Tokina is an excellent lens.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen_asprey2 Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 <p>I also bought the Tokina 11-16...its terrific...beautifully made. I mount in on a D300 and its sharper than the well regarded 14-24/2.8.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmjacobs Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 <p>Steven F, a few comments before this, made a small (but confusing) mistake in an otherwise good contribution:<br />"The EFS 10-20mm lens will appear on your camera as 10-20mm"<br />As he rightly says in his introduction, the 40D has a 1.6 crop factor, so 10-22 will appear as 16-35.<br />You have a somewhat unusual collection of other lensen thought: with a 10-22, you'll still miss the 22-28mm range (35-45mm in 35mm equivalent), a fairly common range. But if you don't mind cropping a bit you could cover that with your wide-angle zoomed in.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmjacobs Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 <p>Oops....that should read: "....of other lenses though".</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony_milton Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 <p>I have had the Sigma 10 - 20 mm for several years now, first with my Canon 350D and now with 40D. I have found it a very good lens, and it is considerably cheaper than the nearest Canon equivalents. It is the only non Canon lens that I use. With such a wide angle lens IS is not so important.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirosa06 Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 <p>Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8 L II USM lens is to my opinion the best mid-wide zoom you can get. It is a 25.6-56mm mounted on a 40D. The down side to it is that it is quiet expensive. If you need a wider angle you should consider buying a full frame camera. Good luck for your choise.<br> <br /></p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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