james_tye1 Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 <p>Just a quicky, does anyone have a favourite shift lens for exterior architecture photography? Architecture isn't generally my thing but a job requires it and I'd rather not have to stretch images in PS.. Preferably something that won't break the bank! Thank you.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Laur Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 <p>It will help if you mention what camera body(ies) you're using, and just how big is that bank you don't want to break.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans_janssen Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 <p>I bought for $125 a Nikkor PC 35/2.8, nothing on the camera mount, and it works perfect on a D700.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_a5 Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 <p>Well, you can generally assume that if you were using large format, you would use something between a 120mm and a 90mm for most exteriors. That leaves you in the 20-30mm range on a full frame dSLR.</p> <p>I actually stretch a lot of shots on my dSLR, but you do need MP to make that work if you have to do much. If you have a smaller MP camera, then a smaller shift or doing it from both ends, decreasing the bottom and widening the top would yield less stress on the pixels.</p> <p>If you go with a TS lens and have a crop sensor, you will need that much more distance from a building, since the widest, 24mm, will need more room--of course, if it is a short building, then you could probably be fine with the 24 or just doing it in PS. (if PS, remember to leave plenty of room for cropping back to a rectangle!)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_stockdale2 Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 <p>I use a 28mm PC lens on full frame and it's very nice for architecture and for landscapes too (rising lens makes the top of mountains look more impressive because they don't taper away). However, it's often not wide enough. The 24mm would be nice but too costly for me.</p> <p>I actually was tempted to buy second hand a Canon 24mm perspective control lens plus a Canon body to go with it, which would still be cheaper than the Nikon 24mm, but decided that it could be done without.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clay2 Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 <p>I have the 28mm f/3.5 p.c. Nikkor on aNikon F2AS.<br /> It is a nice lens but I use the tremendous depth of field more for nature shots and the<br /> rise/fall for flower close ups.<br /> Best regards,<br /> /Clay</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric_brody Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 <p>Best and "not break the bank" are inherently contradictory, but I understand. Your best bet, if it's for a job, is to rent and the best lens then easily becomes the 24 PC-E. If you're going to buy and do not want to make the considerable investment in the 24 PC-E, then one of the older shift-only lenses already mentioned make the most sense. I'm fortunate to have the 24 and 45 PC-E lenses and they have become almost all I use but then, I'm an old 4x5 goat who just enjoys digital so I use the tilts more than the shifts, especially with the 45.<br> Good luck.<br> Eric</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex_jenkins Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 <p>I've been using the 28/3.5 PC Nikkor for several years. In fact, it was my first Nikkor when I switched from Canon FD gear. I bought the lens before I even owned a Nikon body to use it with. It served my needs for a particular project, mostly shot with slide film in an F3HP. But it's occasionally been useful with the DX sensor D2H, mostly for exterior photos where a "normal" focal length is adequate for the desired perspective.</p> <p>I'm not sure what the going price is right now for a 28mm PC Nikkor (f/3.5 or f/4 version), but it's bound to be a bargain compared with the very expensive 24 PC-E.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Ingold Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 <p>I think a Nikkor 90/4 SW on a 4x5 camera is nearly ideal. Expensive in LF terms, they are half the price of a comparable shift/tilt lens for a small format camera.</p> <p>If you can get far enough away, you don't need a shift lens at all. If not, a 24mm on a full frame camera would be nearly ideal, the equivalent to a 90mm lens on a 4x5. Even a 24mm is not particularly wide on a cropping DSLR, and a 28mm is merely "normal".</p> <p>I would not shy away from making perspective corrections in Photoshop. There are a couple of basic "tricks" to observe. Keep the center of the field vertical when shooting. Then subsequent adjustments are symmetrical and the least amount of cropping is required. Secondly, in Photoshop, "squeeze" the bottom as much as you "stretch" the top. This maintains the proportions of the building, emulating a true rising front (but requires cropping to square up the image).</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_stockdale2 Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 <p>"I'm not sure what the going price is right now for a 28mm PC Nikkor (f/3.5 or f/4 version), but it's bound to be a bargain compared with the very expensive 24 PC-E."</p> <p>I don't know which camera you have, but the very early 28mm PC lenses don't work with some recent cameras. Your camera manual has the serial number ranges.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_tye1 Posted May 6, 2010 Author Share Posted May 6, 2010 <p>Sorry, I should have mentioned it will be used with a D700.</p> <p>I would be happy to stretch the parallels but the client is a stickler, they also require RAWs so unless someone knows a way to manipulate the RAW file then that option's out.. The job will be for up to a month of work so hiring isn't cost effective.</p> <p>Hans would you like to sell yours? I'll give you $150 for it.. ;)</p> <p>From what I can gather here, an older manual one might be the way to go. Probably the 28mm f3.5. I've seen one for under £700 in good condition.. does that sound like a good deal?</p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex_jenkins Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 <p>Seems a little high, but I suppose exchange rates and availability dictate market value. The 28/3.5 and 28/4 PC Nikkors are listed on KEH today for under $500 (USD) in good condition. I would have expected the number of FX format Nikons might drive up the price of the 28mm PC Nikkors a bit higher, but apparently they're going for around the same price they did when I bought mine almost 10 years ago.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_tye1 Posted May 7, 2010 Author Share Posted May 7, 2010 <p>Yeah, gear is generally more expensive here. I bought the thing anyway and I can always put it back on ebay if I need to. If I find myself using it a lot I might invest in a pc-e.</p> <p>Thanks for all your suggestions.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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