petersonphoto Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 I'm leaning towards a pre-ASPH for the softer touch, but what tends to be the ideal focal length? I have a .58 M6TTL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredus Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 24mm ? :-) More seriously, from 85 to 135 is imho best for portrait.<br> <br> <img src="http://s89007205.onlinehome.us/photos/renaud.jpg"> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart_richardson Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 It's really down to personal preference. Do you want head shots or head and shoulders or environmental portraits? 75-90 is good for most situations, 35-50 is good for environmental portaits and 135-200+ is often used in fashion photography. I was amazed at the results when I took someone's portrait with the 180mm f/2.8 APO Elmarit in the R system...I thought it would be too long, but it really looked great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_amiet2 Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Literally ANY lens! Dependant entirely on what result you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCULUS New York Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 The 75 Lux is reputed to be the most intimate portrait shooter of the line. Cheers, Ray Hull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry_rory Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 The many portraits I have enjoyed the most (I take only a very few myself) by all my 'favourites' like Doisneau and Lee Miller and Bill Brandt were taken with 80mm on 6x6 format (Rolleiflex usually but Bill Brandt used Hasselblad with 80mm for portraits later in life). The theoretical 'normal' perspective (on 6x6 format) is 85mm so translated to the 36x24 format that would be something like a 45mm or 50mm to show some surroundings for context. I do not enjoy portraits where there is no background (or a completely unintelligle background) and no surroundings at all. I enjoy seeing a little of the subjects environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry_rory Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Sorry. My 'unintelligle' typo was meant to be 'unintelligible'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_neuthaler Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Since moving into Medium Format as well as 35mm, I find the 80mm Xenotar on my Rollei 2.8F to be an ideal portrait lense. Here's a picture of my cutie great niece:<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 "The theoretical 'normal' perspective (on 6x6 format) is 85mm so..." Trevor, any idea why they rested on the 80mm as the norm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mona_chrome Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 I think the best answer is whatever gives you the results you want. Using a lens that is about 2 to 2-1/2 times the normal tends to "draw" the features a bit better for a more straight type portrait and is what you would see in most advertising head shots, including jewelry and make up as they do not want any distortion. But the less of the subject you shoot, that is closer the shot, the better a longer lens will work to prevent distortion. Normal lenses can get a more exaggerated look close up or result in a more normal portrait at 3/4 to full. Wide angle can let you get wild and crazy close up and get lots more info as you back up. What are you looking to do--what's your style? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry_rory Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Eric, probably because the 'actual' dimensions of the negative are not 60mm x 60mm but more like 56mm x 56mm therefore the diagonal would be 79.196mm or 80mm near enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blakley Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 <i>Sorry. My 'unintelligle' typo was meant to be 'unintelligible'.</i><p>It was, Trevor, it was.<p>75/2 Summicron is my fave for portraits. If you search for "+75 +summicron" in the archives you can find commentary on this lens, including some of my pictures with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger_hicks1 Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Dear Craig, Interestingly, the larger the format, the less the need for longer lenses, With 35mm I favour 75 to 135, though I got some excellent results with 58mm; with 6x7, 150 is plenty (rough equivalent on 35mm = 65mm); and with 8x10, 300mm (35mm equivalent 43mm) is adequate, though I have also been happy with 19 inch and 21 inch (around 500mm, 35mm equivalent 52mm). I suspect this is confirmation of the old argument that perspective depends solely on viewpoint (not entirely true, as it also depends on degree of enlargement and viewing distance -- or at least apparent perspective does, and it is hard to distinguish apparent perspective from any other kind). Cheers, Roger (www.rogerandfrances.com -- and AP every week) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janne1 Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 I prefer a 50mm for portraits, i rarely shoot anything too close tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_layton Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 I'll second the above post about the 50 - I love my 50 cron, wide open, for vertical head and shoulders work. Very smooth. - John L. (www.Laytoncamera.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_haller Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 50lux and 75lux - whereby I would not use the 50 with poeple not really used of beeing close to a camera - the 75 provides the best distance and in my eyes perfect look - 50 gives you more contral and precesision but this is philosophy... now on top the 24mm is quite avangard ! Yes, why not with people you know very well - someone why enjoys the fun of beeing close to the nice 24mm asph... yes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmwhee Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 I use a 35mm lens for portraits when shooting with leica simply because it's the only lens I own for that camera. At the same time, this focal length suits me because I like to include surroundings in portraits. As others have pointed out, one could use just about ANY focal length lens for portraits. I have shot portraits with lenses ranging in focal length from 15mm to 85mm. What focal length/s have you yourself used for portraits, and why?<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petersonphoto Posted January 18, 2006 Author Share Posted January 18, 2006 Well, I plan on using a 35 asph lux as my main all-around lens. But I also want a pre-asph lens for softer portraits and thought maybe a 50mm would not make much of a difference as far as the focal length....I have read that the 35 and 90 focal lengths are most popular for M shooters, and I'm assuming the 90 would be used for portrait situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmwhee Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Craig, I have read the same thing about 35/90 combo. At the same time, having owned lenses in the 90mm range over the years, I know I myself rarely use that focal length. There's nothing wrong with it; in practice I simply don't use it. Instead, I reach for a 50mm lens when I want the "reach" of a lens longer than the 35mm focal length. If I were to win the lottery, however, I would buy the 75mm summicron in a minute. Now THAT would be a sweet second lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger_hicks1 Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Dear Bill, Too right! Since getting the 75 Summicron I almost never use my 90 Summicron. That and a 35 Summilux is the perfect pair for me. Cheers, Roger (www.rogerandfrances.com -- and AP every week) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35mmdelux Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 I believe it became the norm because the 80mm was the lens associated w/ the Rollieflex, which many used. On my Hメbld I find myself using the 60mm Distagon a lot, which is the 6x6 equivalent of 35mm on 24x36 format. I love the combination of subject as well as the ancillary info it provides. For a more formal result Iメll use a 120mmMakro-Planar, which is roughly the equivalent of the 75mm in 24x36 format. On my Leicas I've always used the 35mm. The 50mm and 90mm generally just remained on the shelf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reinhard_scheuregger Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 craig, this is an example of a 75 'Lux on a M3. although it has been reported that this is the way to go, i neither really find my 50mm 'Lux inferior for portraits, nor do i find the nose overly pronounced. it is true, though, at least for my taste, that a 250mm on a 'Blad creates a somewhat flatter image, but the difference between a 50 and a 75 doesn'T seem to be dramatic. on top: at least for me, the 50 is easier to focus, smaller and more versatile ... reinhard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reinhard_scheuregger Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 oops. whatever happened to the attached .jpg? another try ...<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reinhard_scheuregger Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 ok, this works now. and here, in comparison, a portrait with the 50mm 'Lux. very grainy, available light ...<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35mmdelux Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 FWIW August Sander used a standard lens for his legendary pix, he preferred full length. For tighter shots one ought to consider slightly longer (your choice) lens. Bruce Gilden would probably choose the wide lens, but that isn*t a product I would give my client as a portrait rendition. Not unless I want to get kicked out on my bum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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