ted_campbell1 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 <p>According to my B&H wish list I'm very sad to learn that Fuji has just discontinued its 200 ISO 35 mm OUTSTANDING color film. This was my go to cheap C-41 film during many many years in the past.<br> Do you feel pessimistic about the future of color negative film?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 <p>They make a few ISO 200 films. What one is it?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff_drew4 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 <p>Sorry, but the Fuji ISO200 film I tried long ago was not a fave of mine. I will not miss this Fujicolor 200. However, I do miss some of the others that have passed on; especially those in roll films. **sigh**</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 <p>Again what one was it? Can you give me a link to the notice?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen t Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 <p>Larry, it may be the Pro version........B&H still shows the Superia200 consumer film.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 <p>As i said. What film.. "Until I see my body in a grave i will know it is mine. Mark Twain" </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randrew1 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 <p>I don't know how long Fuji will last. My best estimate is that color film from Fuji will last a little longer than color film from Kodak. As for Kodak, some of the more dire predictions that Kodak would end film production by the end of 2014 have not come to pass. Apparently there is a group of Hollywood directors who prefer film who have made commitments to purchase certain quantities. As long as motion picture film keeps the plant open, there will be some color still film products as well. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_watson1 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 <p>Sorry, Ted, but why the "Chicken Little" post when the B&H website still plainly lists Superia 200. When was the last time you checked the site--or bought a Superia film? When Fujifilm axes Superia, the end will be in view. All that's been cut so far is Superia 200 in 36exp rolls which happened some time ago.</p> <p>There was much hair-tearing recently when Portra was discontinued in 220 which some misread as the end of Portra. Not.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig_shearman1 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 <p>Personally, I wouldn't see the end of Superia 200 or other 200-speed films as a great loss. Never used them.<br /><br />Going back to my newspaper days and shooting Tri-X every day, I've always considered 400 to be "normal" speed. And 400 has gotten even better in the 20-30 years since then. I have gone to 50 and 100 speed Velvia when I wanted something extra sharp. Usually skipped over the 160 Portra and Fuji portrait films in favor of the 400. Used 800 and 1600 Fuji when I needed something fast.<br /><br />So, IMHO, 200 isn't slow enough to provide a significantly better image than 400, and it isn't fast enough to be as convenient as 400. And as the selection of film options dwindles away, I think it's expendable. I can see there being 50 speed films for the ultra fine grain, 400 as normal and 1600 as high speed. But as less film is sold and the market dries up, the economics just aren't going to support a lot of in-betweens.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_watson1 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 <p>Sounds like you never shot much Superia 200, Craig. I do and find it remarkably good for hitting a sweet spot in terms of contrast, saturation and grain--far better than long-gone Superia 100 and still-available Superia 400 and close to Reala. Superia 200 seems to scan especially well through the Frontier lines at Fujifilm.ca.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie_robertson2 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 <blockquote> <p>Sorry, Ted, but why the "Chicken Little" post when the B&H website still plainly lists Superia 200. When was the last time you checked the site--or bought a Superia film?<br> </p> </blockquote> <p>How do you know Ted was referring to Superia? Superia is not the only ISO 200 print film that Fuji make.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_watson1 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 <p><em>Superia is not the only ISO 200 print film that Fuji make.</em><br> <em> </em><br> <em><br /></em>And those would be?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick_mont Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 <p>The B&H website seems to me to have a history of listing a product as discontinued when in fact it end up returning when they receive more stock</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant_nio_marques Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 There will be new Ferrania film soon and there are many choices from Kodak. There's also Agfa, whoever makes it, and there are other brands. As to ISO 200 fil, in my experience is the worst to scan, on average, due to grain aliasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User_502260 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 <p>I shot one roll of a Fuji 200 speed color print film on vacation and the colors looked very different from those of the Superia 400. I still have a supply of CVS (Fuji) 200 speed color print film in one of the freezers. I rate it at 160 and it's fine but it doesn't look like the roll of current Fuji 200 I shot last year. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie_robertson2 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 <blockquote> <p><em>Superia is not the only ISO 200 print film that Fuji make.</em><br /><br /><em><br /></em>And those would be?</p> </blockquote> <p>Fujicolor 200<br> Fuji C200</p> <p>Both the above are not rebranded Superia and are still manufactured and sold globally.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_watson1 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 <p><em>Fujicolor 200</em><br /><em> Fuji C200</em><br> <em>Both the above are not rebranded Superia and are still manufactured and sold globally.</em><br> <em><br /></em>That might have been the case some time ago but I'd be surprised if these films didn't have a CA/C-200 edge code. Those are early/old versions of Superia 200. They're generally unavailable as anything other than imports on the N. American market now. The current Superia 200 is widely available in Canada and the US.<br> <em> </em><br> <em> </em></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie_robertson2 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 <blockquote> <p>That might have been the case some time ago but I'd be surprised if these films didn't have a CA/C-200 edge code.<br> </p> </blockquote> <p>C200 has the CA24 edge code. Probably the old Superia but it's certainly not the same film as the current Superia 200.</p> <blockquote> <p>They're generally unavailable as anything other than imports on the N. American market now.</p> </blockquote> <p>That may be true but it's still a current emulsion, is still in production and can be bought in the USA: http://www.adorama.com/FJCASP36.html</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_watson1 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 <p>No clue what Fujifilm has in cryo-suspension and sells as imports into the N. American market or elsewhere around the planet but neither Fujifilm USA/Canada sells anything other than the current iteration of Superia 200. The OP should be aware that Superia 200--whatever the incarnation--is still available in N. America.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_p Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 <p>The Superia 200 is actually a great film. For the price Fuji offers it gives you a lot. I haven’t seen any discontinuity note about this film. But even it is this way I guess it’s simply been replaced by Agfa Vista 200 plus that’s, by some sources, made by Fuji also. I believe that same as with all this digital junk like Fujifilm X series Fuji plays this rebranding/repacking goofy game. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted_campbell1 Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 <p>Sorry guys I'm not talking about Superia, I'm talking about their consumer's 200 ISO film. IMHO I see the discontinuance of this film as a negative sign in the future trend of color negative film, just thought it was productive to share my opinion with you. Disagree with one who said that B&H has a reputation of reporting false news. Like or not the film is now discontinued.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 <p>I checked with 2 film dealer friends and they have not received any notice from FUJI. If B&H got one then they are the only dealer that did. Sometime a store will self discontinue something that is not selling well. I have seen this in many cases.<br /> Yes emulsions are thinning out but it is the cheap ones that tend to survive.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted_campbell1 Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 <p>Hope that is the case but I doubt it. Bottom line I can't no longer get it. At the present time I'm eye bowling Kodak's 200 ISO consumer's film for as long at it last. In my opinion Black and White films will survive way longer.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 <p>Well I cried the day Plus-X died but then I discovered ORWO UN54 and I wondered why I had not used it before. We all have to make the best of situations and sometimes we get pushed into better situations. As for the Death of a film I prefer to hold off on a death notice until I get more concrete conformation.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex_jenkins Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 <p>Got a link showing where Fuji has discontinued its ISO 200 color film, or where B&H shows it as discontinued? As of this writing, <a href="http://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/film/35mm_print/index.html">Fuji's website shows it as available</a> and <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/93078-USA/Fujifilm_15719395_CA_135_24_Fujicolor_200.html">B&H shows it as in stock</a>.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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