We all have our own way of photographing and critiquing and I want to respect that while also expressing some concern about the amount of reworking being done to photos put up for critique. (This is not the post processing challenge forum.) While I know a picture can be worth a thousand words and it seems somewhat more direct to show someone various suggestions rather than trying to describe them in detail, perhaps neither a picture nor 1000 words is what really works in these kinds of critiques. Suggesting a crop doesn't have to mean suggesting an exact crop. "A little less centered" or "a little more balanced" seems like description enough, then allowing the photographer to determine a) if it's a good suggestion and b) how to carry it out. I guess I don't want to be in the business of re-inventing someone else's photo for them, even if I find it wanting. I'd much prefer to think I can say something suggestive that will lead to another photographer's personal reconsideration or reworking of his photo. Sometimes, it's a critique of a photo that I feel is never going to work and my comments are meant for future shooting. Speaking from experience, when I was new at this I had a few more experienced photographer friends who were looking at my work and giving feedback. Never did they rework my own stuff and their comments were always more suggestive than specific, as they were more encouraging me to find my own way rather than encouraging me to see things as they would. Even when I wanted more specifics, I often wasn't given them and that benefitted me greatly and kept me free. Obviously I'm not trying to and couldn't if I wanted to censor anyone or step on anyone's toes. But, feeling as strongly as I do about this, I just thought I'd put it out there. The recent "Just starting out" thread was a big motivator for me. The new photographer showed a very nice start with much potential and it seems like there were attempts to specifically mold the photographs instead of more loosely and suggestively encouraging the photographer with honest reactions that would encourage him to seek a way forward for himself.