sorry for two posts so close together -- i was going to mention this in the other thread but forgot. i'm NOT suggesting that we do it now, but it might be interesting at some point to do a roll call here to see how many people are tuning in. maybe even lurkers would agree to say "here." i have seen such roll calls on other sites and it is often surprising to see just how many people are "in the house." perhaps the moderator would agree to make it a persistent thread for 24 hours. anyway, if it seems like a good idea to people, anyone should feel free to call the roll!!