maurik Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 It seems that there is a new trick to get to the top and stay on thetop of the "Top rated" photo list. I'm not sure how it is done, but itseems you submit a photo, get 3 or 4 7/7 ratings, then withdraw thephoto from getting more ratings, and presto, one stays at the top andget a lot views.<br>Ok, I am being cynical (but maybe I got your attention), this isprobably not what is happening, but some coding error has allowed afew top rated photos to remain on the list without giving other usersan opportunity to rate them. OOPS, I just noticed that another codingerror does not allow me to read this message once posted.<br>I which all of the Photo.net experts the best of luck in finding theproblems, which is often very difficult! Thanks for running this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_hohner Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 It's working as designed (or rather, it's broken as designed):<ol><li>Upload picture<li>Get a few 7/7 mate ratings<li>Submit photo for critique only. This means that it keeps the current ratings, but can not receive additional ratings.</ol><p>That's an old trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tijean Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 Ug. I hope it's also a quit route to banishment (yes, I know, there is no true banishment on the internet). I thought that submittal for critique only erased all previous ratings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maurik Posted April 6, 2005 Author Share Posted April 6, 2005 Depressing to find out this trick is indeed being use, as is evident from the current top rated photo: <a href="http://www.photo.net/photo/3255022">http://www.photo.net/photo/3255022</a> and the one after it: <a href="http://www.photo.net/photo/3253977">http://www.photo.net/photo/3253977</a> Either photo would have rated down by now, according to the critiques.<br> I appreciate knowing how it's done. Now, how is it undone?<br> I am still assuming these people did not do this on purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark lucas Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 "I am still assuming these people did not do this on purpose" Ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emre Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 Some people enjoy gaming the system. Nothing new... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maurik Posted April 6, 2005 Author Share Posted April 6, 2005 Ok, I am naive. Or maybe an optimist. If this was rigging these photos need to be deleted. Perhaps these users need to be booted off, seems easy to tell who did the rigging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark lucas Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 "Perhaps these users need to be booted off, seems easy to tell who did the rigging" Or, perhaps they'll be given the benefit of the doubt. Again and again and again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdanger Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 I checked it out. The first five are mediocre at best. Amazing to me that they care so much about being first, that they contrived to put themselves on first page...makes everything on that first page look dull and boring. Mary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobatkins Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 Simple solution. If an image has ratings turned off, don't display it on the TRP. Shouldn't be too hard to do (easy for me to say of course!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_Es Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 This is really interesting. I think I've figured it out. 1. Post an image and get your friends to rate it 7/7. 2. Withdraw image and it remains a perfect 7/7. 3. No one is the wiser. I my view, anyone who does this sort of thing is insecure. A true artist disdains ratings and false glory. Are you reading this, Bob? Is this "featured critics" kind of writing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephan d Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 I am very surprised that this behaviour is being tolerated. It really detracts significantly from the value of this site. Sure, we all aspire to the first page, but not if we or others get there falsely. I assume someone is working on a software fix, but in the meantime I would prefer that the offending pictures be manually removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjacksonphoto Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 My understanding (and experience) is that, once you submit for "critique only", any ratings the photo has received are automatically deleted. I think it even says this on the submission form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbstella Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 <p>All systems can be gamed. The answer to this is don't aspire to the front page. Just concentrate on your art. Frankly, I rarely look at the first page of any art site because of this very thing. <br /> Look through the random images to find the work YOU think is best. Takes longer, true, but your impressions are uncluttered by the fact that the image is "supposed" to be good. <br /> Not trying to be preachy here, it's just that looking at "top rated" work is often frustrating and disheartening. Don't do it to yourself. lol</p> <p>Oh God, this is an old thread! - Nevermind, the issue is probably fixed by now! ^____^</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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