terry_rory Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 <p> I am posting two images taken within minutes of each other and within metres of each other. One taken with Fuji Velvia 100 DL and Leica M6/40mm Nokton f.1.4 and the other with a Nikon D70 and a Sigma Zoom lens at a roughly equivalent focal length that may a little shorter or longer I am not sure (cannot remember).</p> <p> When I took the images I did not mean them to be a comparison (I generally don't do comparison shots as each system had different strengths). I have set each image to have about the same file size and quality setting and pixel size. The sharpening is the same on both and the colour is unmanipulated on both. My apologies for not planning to do a scientific comparison set in advance so therefore presenting slightly differennt views. </p> <a href=" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://static.flickr.com/66/167723071_35f24eb0be_o.jpg" width="750" height="506" alt="LulworthTestD70/M6compare2" /></a> | <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/trevorhare/167723070/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://static.flickr.com/70/167723070_ac4f3f7668_o.jpg" width="750" height="493" alt="LulworthTestD70/M6compare1" /></a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_. Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 clearly, leica wins. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivek iyer Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Leica suck big time. D70 is the undisputed winner (as always). :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanb Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Lulworth cove, I presume? Let's see a 100% crop then... maybe of the biggest boat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erudolph Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 If this is an informal comparison, tell us what scanner you used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivek iyer Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Shouldn't this be film vs digital? A fair comparison would be the D70 (or 200) with the DMR (made by Leica). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_graham3 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 No doubt about it, the Leica roundness and glow just jump right off the monitor, in fact if I hadn't ducked I think it would've broke my nose :*) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayton_p._strickland1 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 The colour is more pleasing on bottom photo, however, I suspect the colour on top photo is more correct. So, unless I missed something, which is which (yeah, I know, I should be able to tell the difference, but I readily admit I can't, but if I had to make a decision I would suspect the top photo is with the Leica and 40 because it seems just a tad sharper)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill a. Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 ummm, ok... I assume the top image is Leica (looks a bit sharper, less contrast). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-nico- Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 It's as if a filter was used on the top image. Which has mor vignetting than the second btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy m. Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 I'm guessing the bottom image was traken with film (marginal grain apparent in the sky?????), but I find it difficult to tell on this occasion. I often seem to prefer the look of digital for screen images. The qualities of film sometimes get lost in translation. Unless I have also missed something, which is which? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael j hoffman Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Both are good. I like the top image best. Michael J Hoffman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kolaczan Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Kind of pointless. If I shot two images, one with a prime (canon, leica, nikon) vs a third party superzoom I'd be surprised if the prime DIDN'T win. film vs digital or camera brand would be irrelevant. So, clearly, this is just another opportunity for Leica users to PooPoo the rest of us and pat themselves on the back for how "clearly" superior they are. Have fun guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivek iyer Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 " So, clearly, this is just another opportunity for Leica users to PooPoo the rest of us and pat themselves on the back for how "clearly" superior they are." Ah, make that C-V Nokton users vs the Sigma zoom users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry_rory Posted June 15, 2006 Author Share Posted June 15, 2006 <p> Another pair. Again M6 TTL/Nokton 40mm f/1.4 Velvia 100 DL and Nikon Coolsc V and Nikon D70 + 18-50mm f/2.8 Sigma EX DC in no particular order. </p> <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/trevorhare/167764547/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://static.flickr.com/65/167764547_899e59da00_o.jpg" width="511" height="769" alt="LulworthTestD70/M6compare3" /></a> | <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/trevorhare/167764546/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://static.flickr.com/72/167764546_f8729f393f_o.jpg" width="511" height="766" alt="LulworthTestD70/M6compare4" /></a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kolaczan Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 No significant difference. Except maybe the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kolaczan Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Or was that the point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry_rory Posted June 15, 2006 Author Share Posted June 15, 2006 Due to an elemental error on my part that last pair is dead easy to work out :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerry_szarek Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 On the original post it's obvious the top post is FILM, it has more dynamic range. Gerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas_t Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 No idea which is which, but I prefer the top one in both instances. What is the answer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 The Bokeh is exquisite on the top picture. You can enlarge and read the registration number on the right hand boat (starboard side :-) ) and also the all important underwater wildlife. All I can say about the lower image is, that's a smit tee shirt he's wearing. Purely a record shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_brewton Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Trevor, thank you for taking the time to post these. As you know, you cannot win when you do these things. All the "armchair quarterbacks" come out of the woodwork. Interesting that on the original images, you can see the bottom of the cove (?) on the top image while the lower image has more saturation. Would manipulating the top image for more saturation result in the loss of the bottom resolution? Just throwing this out for your speculation and maybe something for you to try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Thomas, Look a bit more carefully, but this time imagine it's your $5k just spent on the lens. p.s. Your answer is wrong . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runkel Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 I wonder why so much more is visible below the water in the first photo. Is it only a matter of camera, scanner and Photoshop settings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjords Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Too much guano and nitrates in the 2nd pics:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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