Hi everybody, I'm new here and this is my first post. Nice to meet you all I want to take up photography as a hobby as I've recently developed a passion and love towards it. Up until now I've been using a Kodak Snapshot 8 megapixel. Now I want to take a leap in to the world of DSLR and phew I have to say it's a jungle out there In a good way I mean. My budget is very limited to start with. I'm tempted by the 5D and the 7D, but that's just a dream for now. I've done a bit of research and found out some pretty interesting offers. I come from Italy and I have to mention that good offers are really hard to come by and it's more of a rip off here, shame! Iv'e looked at a EOS 50D, used of course, body only 500 Euros with a 3 month guarantee. Do you think that it's a reasonable price for a camera that's not in production any more and not knowing the real usage behind it. I'm also on the look out for a 40D if I get a good buy. Now, the lens. There are a million options out there as you know. I'm a beginner, so do you think its worth to invest on an expensive L lens to start with, like the walk about 24-105 mm L or stick to a decent affordable EF lens like the 17-85 mm IS USM or the more practical 18-200 mm IS? Like I mentioned before, for starters. Thank you in advance for all your valuable tips and help. Need to make the right decision and spend my hard earned money well DBW p.s. - Anybody selling a 50D or 40D for a "decent price", let me know. Cheers.