glenbarrington Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 I was reading a forum post about the square format of traditional Medium Format cameras and I realized that one of the reasons I am drawn to the 4:3's format is that the aspect ratio has the same intimate 'feel' of a square format. There isn't much breadth to the form but it has considerable depth. Indeed, I think it lends itself to cropping to square quite readily. And I feel that the techniques for shooting landscapes and candids with a 4:3s camera is much closer to shooting them in a square MF than it is to shooting them in 35mm format. Am I the only one who feels this way? Are you finding yourself doing things technique wise that are closer to larger format techniques? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neild Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 Different formats for different compositions. Personally, I like the 3:2 format better than 4:3 most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg M Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 Most of what I actually print is printed at 8x10 or 8.5x11. The amount I have to crop my Olympus files is substantially less- I pretty much don't need to worry about the wide side of the image, unlike the days of shooting film and having to make sure I kept well short of the sides to get an 8x10 print that didn't crop something off I didn't want to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenbarrington Posted May 27, 2006 Author Share Posted May 27, 2006 Lots of times, I print/display square. It's the intimacy of that lack of breadth. It's got something to do with being forced to look at the world thru a smaller window, you have less to work with, but less distraction as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanford Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 Since I shoot both formats (Nikon D50 and Olympis 5060) I've begun resizing everything to 7"x10", right in-between. Makes cutting mats very simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanford Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 Sorry about misspelling "Olympus". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisgibbs Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 Hi Glenn, One of the biggest gripes of *medium-format film* to digital pro's is the *35mm* aspect ratio (too skinny for portraits and uprights in general). For me, being an avid MF guy Olympus really got this bit right and I agree that it's a very pleasing format to work with. If you look over the (professional) Canon forums you'll find lots of information on this topic, Canon do listen, recently they offered 4:3 (cropped) focussing screens to their pro's for just this purpose. Makes you wonder if (read: when) Canon will offer a 4:3 equiped camera for their editorial/ commercial photographers. Now, if only Olympus could give us a Canon (FF) sized view-finder, then all in the world would be good ;-) Best, Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenbarrington Posted May 28, 2006 Author Share Posted May 28, 2006 Christopher, you get what I'm talking about, I think. It isn't which aspect ratio I use that is important. It is WHY I use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisgibbs Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 Yes, Glen it's all how about how the image *feels* with me too. On a side note, the very best *skinny* format for landscape imaging is Bronica's 35mm wide back, I think it was 24x54mm, perfect in my opion (24x36mm not quite wide enough for me). Now, I shoot the XPan, nice, but is just not *as nice* as the 54mm wide Bronica frame. As for 4:3, yes, it just feels right AND as you say crops beautifully to suare OR is great as is! I think the difference between 4:3, 2:3 is very akin to that of the Bronica 35mm wide and XPan frames - "you either get it OR you don't." All the best,Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neild Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 <i>"Now, if only Olympus could give us a Canon (FF) sized view-finder, then all in the world would be good ;-)"</i> <p> Don't know about Canon's 1-series cameras but I have the 5D and its viewfinder is not so much larger than my old 10D - and certainly much smaller than the viewfinder of my OM-1. I would like to get a FF digital camera with an OM-1 kind of viewfinder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisgibbs Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 ....Don't know about Canon's 1-series cameras but I have the 5D and its viewfinder is not so much larger than my old 10D - and certainly much smaller than the viewfinder of my OM-1. I would like to get a FF digital camera with an OM-1 kind of viewfinder.... I think that all the viewfinders (on pro-line cameras have been *high eyepoint* (smaller) AND the 5D is 95% (thereabouts), plus high-eye point, so that's two strikes against it! The 5D however IS huge compaired to my E1, as for my OM2n's, I cannot remember, they got traded for the F3 when it was introduced (a mistake) a long time ago. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neild Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 Don't know about the E-1 as I've never handled one, but I'd estimate the OM-1 viewfinder to be at least double the apparent area (say about 1.5x larger in each dimension) as the 5D's viewfinder. Anyway, I get by... ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerrySiegel Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 I adapted easily to 4:3. It seems natural to me. What else is there to say. I suppose my love for the square may explain it. 126 in the early days. Then the Bronica square. Now if we got a true Euclidian square wouldn't need to look for L shaped quick release plates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans_h._siegrist Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 I found the transition from 3:2 to 4:3 quite natural. Here is an uncropped image in 4:3 format (Olympus E-1 with ZD 300/2.8 + 1.4x). Cheers! Hans<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCULUS New York Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 I'm an MF guy and like the similarity of the 4:3 setup as well. You just have to juggle the math to crop to either square or 3:2. Nice to have that option, or as so ably suggested above, leave it right where it is. Cheers, Ray Hull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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