Ive been reading up lately on the Zone lately: The new Zone System Manual (White-Zakia-Lorenz), Zone Vl Workshop (Fred Picker) & Beyond the Zone System (Phil Davis) All three have doing your own developing as a major part of this art. In fact as I understand it, Ansel Adams actually spent more time in the darkroom than out in the field taking the shots. (Time not counted on getting to the location of the shot) Having just gotten into B&W and at this time I do not have the inclination to set up a dark room, for the same reason I do not like spending much time in the digital darkroom. The last book I mentioned Beyond the Zone System, seems to take this need for control to the nth degree, Yikes, one needs to be more concerned with grafts, curves and such rather than the composition. I'm trying to simplify, to slow down and compose. Trying to learn how to 'see'. Yet, understanding the basics has helped me in choosing my exposure, not only for B&W but for color negative and slide also, and believe it has made me a better photographer. Yet it seems, by the explanation and use of examples in these books, that knowing and using the correct paper, timing of development ect, can bring a shot that would just be OK developed by a ProLab, into something much more, when given this attention. But the questions remain... Can you really do the Zone system, be successful with it using roll 35mm film, rather than individual shots from a larger format camera? Either way of shooting, roll film or large format, can you really do the zone system, using a Pro photo lab, rather then doing your own development? And if it can be done, using a pro lab, how do you do it? How do you set it up, what instructions do you give? Thanks for your input.