everest_lapp Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 I am looking to purchase a 2' x 3' large format scanner if they even exist so that I can scan my old architectural drawings. If anyone knows of one and what it might cost I would be most happy to hear about it. Thank you in advance - Everest Lapp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenwood Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Never seen one quite that big but a couple of options are scanning it in pieces and stitching in Photoshop or carefully shooting it with a digi camera and piecing it together same way. Also check reprographic services in your area. They might be able to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_vener_photography Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 I think if you are dealing with subject matter that large you are better off wit ha 10mp or higher resolution camera than a scanner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly_flanigan1 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Go to a LOCAL reprographic/blueprinter/bigbond shop that already scans and does large bond/xerox type prints. Digital scanners for this type of work are old; here we got a 400dpi 36" wide model in 1992. Even some office depot and kinkos do this too. A typical shop scans at 400dpi; a clean drawing is typically about 200 to 500k in file size for a 24x36" scan at 400dpi; with a lossless Group 4 tiff; or pdf. If the drawing is dirty with alot of ghosting and crud the file might be up to 3 megs. If its an ancient blueprint with white lines and a blue background then folks scan and invert them so a print doesnt use a huge amount of toner for copies. The scanner yields a much larger image than any camera can shoot; even the one in 1992 did this. A 30x42" E size print is 12000 by 16800 pixels; thats 24 megapixel; a contact print with no optics at all. The cost to scan is bascially labor; unrolling prints; fixing torn corners; burning cd's/emailing/ftping. This might be anywhere from 1 dollar to 100 per sheet; for a slam dunk no rush job to a dead sea scrolls job.<BR><BR> Bringing the originals to a shop will get you the best price. Folks always say the prints are excellent; then you get this moldy mess with chunks missing, added bird crap; dog/rat chewed on; better yet prints still wet from Katrina that require rubber gloves, masks, pieces are pulled off dried then assembled like the dead sea scrolls. <BR><BR>There are also color scanners with a 36" wide scan bar; ours is 200 thru 600 dpi. These are typically used for colored renderings, old rock/movie posters, and on rare cases pesky plans that require a color scan. <BR><BR> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly_flanigan1 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 At a trade show about a decade ago I saw a giant flatbed that would scan a 7.5 minute topo quad map; its was about 150k; not chicken feed. A digital camer can alos be used to shoot drawings; this is done mostly by pros for dead sea scroll type creations; ie frail stuff that wont go thru a roller fed scanner. Its also done by folks on jobsites away from a repro shop during an emergency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly_flanigan1 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 The high speed B&W scan head on my newest printer cost 14k. Probably a simple digital 36" xerox type printer scanner thats a slow 3D's per minute will be about 5 to 9 grand. Ebay has used 36" scanners sometimes for a couple grand. Here I am on our 8th one since 1992. Used ones often dont have much support in the field. Thus a 6 year scanner for a grand might last 1 year or 6 more; then the borad that died might be 5 grand and only one guy has them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jo7hs2 Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 They are certainly out there: Being manufacturered: http://www.contex.com/english/scanners/scanners/overview_scanners.aspx Sold used: http://www.kbp.com/sales/xerox/xerox.html And new: http://www.wholesalescanners.com/lgformat_scanners.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly_flanigan1 Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Joshua; only the "COPYmate G18 iJET" in your first link is a giant flatbed; its 18x24".<BR><BR> All the rest have the original fed thru a slot where the original moves across a scan bar. <BR><BR>In the first case which is a flatbed the original never moves; the scan bar does. <BR><BR>The second case is the common as dirt case in which the scan bar doesnt move and the original does. These have been around almost 2 decades now. Early ones had blocks of scan bars from fax machines; each scan bar was about 8 inches wide; our unit in 1992 had 4 1/2 scan bars for the 36" width.<BR><BR>The flatbed in your link is smaller than the one that was 150k over a decade ago.<BR><BR>Typically one would have to have alot of engineering drawings to scan and some cheap labor to beat a repro/print houses scan rates. In the upper end market one can scan say 6 to 12 D size drawings a minute if the originals are decent. Typically pro scanners are used at a 400dpi setting. Slick marketing chaps will push you a faster scanner but then they often spec them in inches per second for a 200 dpi setting; which doubles the numbers! At a 200 dpi setting the original is moved twice as fast across the scan bar as a 400dpi setting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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