28mm Pick'em

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by nikofile, Dec 13, 2014.

  1. I have been wanting a 28mm for my Df .... just because. I looked at the new 1.8G, but it is large, and the cheapest nice used one I could find was $500. New is nearly $700.
    So I looked at the legendary Ai-s 28mm f2.8. New USA is about $540, but there are lots of used ones out there. It's small, and all reviews say it is as good as it gets for near distance. Bjorn Rorslett gives it a 5 on almost everything but only 3.5 for distance. No one seems to like it at distance.
    Then there is the Ai-s 28mm f2. It is good everywhere, although not as good up close as the f2.8 version. Still, Bjorn gives it top grades on everything.
    The new 1.8G is an excellent lens, as are both of the Ai-s lenses. AF is not a very important feature here. I want to use it for street-type stuff, and MF is fine. This morning I got on ebaby and found the Ai-s f2 version out in California. The seller has perfect feedback on a lot of sales, and he declares it is in Mint condition. The photos suggest it is. t was a bit over $300, and that looked pretty good to me. So I jumped on it. I truly hope that the fact it has been in California doesn't taint the lens in some way.
    I am looking forward to this 28mm lens. I have enjoyed my 20mm Ai-s more than I can tell you, and I think this lens will be great fun as well on my Df. I recently picked up a 55mm f2.8 that is mint and beautiful. Wow, is that thing sharp. I tried it also on my little a6000, and it is wonderful on that as well.
    The Df has made all this possible for me. I take fewer photos with a larger variety of lenses than I ever have before, even with film, and I enjoy it immensely. I have started my little savings account for the Df2, if it ever comes. But even if I do get it, I'm not sure I could give up my Df. That's why I want to have the money saved and ready, rather than plan on selling my Df for the funds. A Df2 would have to be really special to replace the Df.
     
  2. As a long time resident of California I am curious to know why a lens should be "tainted" in some way because it comes from a California seller. Our climate is not conducive to lens fungus and I have not had any negative experiences when puchasing photo gear from California sellers. Kindly enlighten me. Robert M Rene
     
  3. Roy:
    I have the new 1.8 G. Even though it is a tad pricey it is a wonderful lens. It is the best 28 I have ever worked with.
    -O
     
  4. I second Owen, I love my 28mm f/1.8G so much so I just bought the new 20mm f/1.8G.
     
  5. I have the new 1.8 G. Even though it is a tad pricey it is a wonderful lens. It is the best 28 I have ever worked with.​

    I'm sure it is, Owen. I have read nothing but good things. But it is pricey, and it is larger than I would like. I suspect manual focus on the G lens is decent, but not many lenses are as good in that area as Nikon Ai and Ai-s.
     
  6. As a long time resident of California I am curious to know why a lens should be "tainted" in some way because it comes from a California seller.​

    Hey, Robert. Just kidding....kinda.
     
  7. I second Owen, I love my 28mm f/1.8G so much so I just bought the new 20mm f/1.8G.​

    A tad ironic, Georges. My desire for a 28mm Ai-s is partially fueled by how much I enjoy my Ai-s 20mm f2.8.
     
  8. When I bought a D800E about two months ago, the last thing I wanted was to have to get less desirable lenses. I went with the very best I could put on that camera. The lenses will hold their value while I know the camera will continue dropping like a rock. It's the lenses that can really make a camera "sing." The $500 vs. $300 just doesn't sound like a big deal to me after the couple thousand you spent on a body.
    Kent in SD
     
  9. I love my 28/2 Ai. It has an artful look to it. The best are very sharp. They have a rounded character that is cinematic. The aesthetics of it are no accident at all. This was a lens designed to look great. I have the 28/1.8g, which is a good lens, but with neutral values. There are times one wants that too.
    Here's a review of two Nikon 28/2.8 Ai lenses which tested with huge differences. At their best, these are amazing.
    http://www.16-9.net/lens_tests/28mm_2.html
     
  10. I often regret selling my 28/2 AIS. You will be very pleased. Don't worry too much about a DF2, you can use all your lenses on the better Nikon cameras, with manual aperture and metering, no problem.
    Just because a lens is new does not make it better. Nothing wrong with putting any very good Nikon lens on a DF or D800/D810.
     
  11. I use my Nikkor 28mm f2 Ai on my FM3a/FM2N.
    It is a wonderful lens even close up and also very resistant to flare. It is also shaper in the corners at distance than the 28mm 2.8 AIS which I had and sold. I do not see any difference close up at all. The 28mm 2.8 AIS is not so sure footed when dealing with contre jour light - it does have a tendency to flare more that the F2 28mm.
    Mark
     
  12. I sold mine together with all my Nikon stuff when I changed to RB67, its an outstanding lense and unique if you have the
    sun in the frame
     
  13. I often regret selling my 28/2 AIS. You will be very pleased. Don't worry too much about a DF2, you can use all your lenses on the better Nikon cameras, with manual aperture and metering, no problem.​

    Thanks for that input, John. While it is true many modern Nikon DSLRs can take Ai and Ai-s lenses, the viewfinders are missing something. At least it seemed that way with my D800E, and a D700 when I had that. The Df viewfinder is different, and it is a very good balance for AF and MF. I am really looking forward to the 28mm. I have very much enjoyed a Voigtlander 40mm for walk-around, and I believe I will enjoy this 28mm for that same purpose.
     
  14. If you don't need AF, then I don't think you'll lose anything between the old 28mm f/2 Ai-S and the new 28mm f/1.8 AF Nikkor. Both are quite soft in the corners wide open, but with the Ai-S lens it's a kind of hazy soft-focus effect rather than the harsh, plain out-of-focus effect of the AF lens.
    Stop the Ai-S lens down to f/4 and it's as clear as a bell all over the frame. In fact f/2.8 is pretty darn good too. I had the "legendary" 28mm f/2.8 Nikkor very briefly. I really couldn't see what the fuss was about and IMHO it's a very average lens until it's stopped well down. The f/2 version absolutely trounces it at like apertures.
    I must admit I've been getting a bit lazy and using the Tamron 28-75mm for nearly everything. Pulling out the 28mm f/2 has encouraged me to stick a few of my old MF primes on the D800 and try to get back my 'single vision' eye. That is, learning to see pictures with a single A-O-V. Something I haven't really consciously done for years - thanks to the ubiquitous (and maybe iniquitous) zoom lens.
     
  15. I must admit I've been getting a bit lazy and using the Tamron 28-75mm for nearly everything. Pulling out the 28mm f/2 has encouraged me to stick a few of my old MF primes on the D800 and try to get back my 'single vision' eye. That is, learning to see pictures with a single A-O-V. Something I haven't really consciously done for years - thanks to the ubiquitous (and maybe iniquitous) zoom lens.​

    I have kept only 4 AF lenses, a 24mm 2.8D, 50mm 1.4G, 85mm 1.8G and an old 28-70 3.5-4.5D. I enjoy shooting with the MF lenses far more than AF, but the 50mm and 85mm are such good lenses that I would never give them up. And there are times I like just going out with the AFD 24mm. It too is a great lens. Still, it is very hard to like anything better than the Ais 20mm 2.8. And I know I will love the 28mm f2.
     
  16. I received my lens four days ago, but work has kept me from my camera. I have taken a few shots around the house, and I love it. It is a gorgeous copy. I can't wait to get out with it.
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  17. I am sure the 28/2 will be spectacular on the Df. I have the 28/2.8D-AF, which is great from f4.0, but lack some luster at f2.8. But that is no matter because the results from the 28-70/f3.5-4.5D-AF are just excellent.
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  18. But that is no matter because the results from the 28-70/f3.5-4.5D-AF are just excellent.​

    I really like that 28-70 on my Df. Appears you have a really nice copy. Mine is nearly mint, and it AF focuses accurately and fast, which is a good thing because it isn't much for manual focus. Still, it is great for family photos.
     
  19. well , IQ is not everything, i think a conpact ais28/f2 brings more fun than AF 2.8 . 52MM FILTHER is also benifet in saving money. the focus feeling also better. i have a AI28F2.8, hevily used, spending 90USD. i bought a ais28 f.28 new for 450usd, after comparision i find no differenc e at all and return the ais one.
     

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