Rob_L1664876404 Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 Canon Canada has posted the PDF versions of the camera and software user's manuals for the 20D. The link is (please forgive me, I'm not an HTML user): http://www.canon.ca/product_reg.asp? lng=en&pid=299&pname=EOS+20D&pr=0&shlink=http%3A%2F%2Fcanoncanada% 2Ecusthelp%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fcanoncanada%2Ecfg%2Fphp%2Fenduser% 2Fstd%5Falp%2Ephp%3Fp%5Fli%3D%26p%5Fpage%3D1%26p%5Fprod%5Flvl1%3D13% 26p%5Fprod%5Flvl2%3D271%26p%5Fcat%5Flvl1%3D5%26p%5Fsearch%5Ftext%3D% 26p%5Fnew%5Fsearch%3D1%26p%5Fsearch%5Ftype%3Ddflt%26p%5Fsort%5Fby% 3Ddflt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellavance Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 Rob, How about this? http://tinyurl.com/6w8v7 Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
test11664875106 Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 Thanks a lot for the info! Just quickly went through the manuals and got very happy that nobody called yet on my ad about selling my EOS 3. Ok, I accepted 1.6x crop size, I even accepted to tolerate fat-spot meter, but to lack of real DOF-mode that I use 90% of the time for hyperfocal focusing...no, thank you. It's really hard to believe that CPU in 20D is unable to provide real DOF mode. I hope Canon comes before long with semi-professional model of DSLR cheaper than used car. Any hope it will happen at PMA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueworldstudios Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 What is 'real DOF' mode? And, how is it more valuable than being able to look at the LCD and see the actual DOF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
test11664875106 Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 real DOF mode (as found in EOS 3, dunno about EOS 30/Elan) is when I register (by AF on it) nearest desired object, then register the farmost object, then recompose and press AF button again and camera calculates where it should focus and what apperture should be. Then I switch to M-mode, close down the apperture 1.5-2 stops from suggested in DOF mode and make the shot. EOS 20D features damn A-DOF mode instead, just like my first EOS 3000, where camera chooses for you farmost and nearest objects and only within about 3/5th of the frame in the center. It's lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
test11664875106 Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 sorry, didn't answer second question - at least my eyes are not good enough to judge sharpness of tiny objects in the tiny viewfinder of even 35mm film bodies and LCD's in DSLRs are not for pre-view but for post-view if I understand things correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueworldstudios Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 When a digital shot doesn't cost anything, the difference between a preview and post-view becomes sort of irrelevant, just make an adjustment and shoot again. The zoom feature lets you see exactly what's in or out of DOF. If DOF is that critical to your images, digital is the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_dunn2 Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 <p>But the real DOF mode would let you get the shot the first time, rather than taking the shot, then fooling around scanning around the image on a little LCD at full zoom, trying again, and so on. I have no idea why Canon leaves the real DOF mode off its prosumer DSLRs; they include it on their prosumer 35mm SLRs and have done for many years.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
test11664875106 Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 It looks like they have removed 'real DOF' even from their new flahship - 1Ds Mk 2! Do they have some substitute for this or is it like first we drop DOF scale on the lenses, now we drop even DOF mode? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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