103 film width

Discussion in 'Large Format' started by nze_christian, Mar 25, 2001.

  1. Hi all

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    Can someone tell me the exact width of the 103 film ?

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    (Not with the spool only the film)

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    regards
     
  2. Christian: Can you give us a little more info on "103 film"? I have
    never heard of it. Is it a roll film, and if so, what does it fit?

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    Regards,
     
  3. the 103 spool fit in special holder like a roll of 4 inch width to give
    4*5 images .
    It was also use on ld camera like Bull eye 4 and Panoram.

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    I asking bergger to make me some film which has the same
    width as this film but I don't know the precise size.

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    Is it 4 inch or a less.
     
  4. See the web page The History of Kodak Roll Films by Chuck Baker.
    Unfortunately, all it has to say was the image size was 4x5, but it is an interesting place to look up that odd film size for the camera you find in the attic.
    103 was made from 1896-1949.
     
  5. Divide by 24.4 millimeters/inch. 103/2.54 = 4.055 inches.
     
  6. Let's try again!

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    Divide by 25.4 millimeters/inch. 103/25.4 = 4.055 inches.
     
  7. Christian, I checked out Walker Mangum's Kodak Collector's site, and
    he lists (with Thom Bell's site as the source) 103 film as having a
    "picture area" as 3 3/4 in. x 4 3/4 in. If you go to this site, it's
    under the heading "History of Kodak Roll Film". With production dates
    from 1896-March 1949, it's a safe bet that the original film was
    nitrate base. I suppose you could check with Film for Classics to see
    if they stock a substitute, or have any more info. Here this is
    Mangum's site:
    http://www.nwmangum.com/Kodak/
     
  8. Hey Christian, I guess I spoke too soon...go to the Film For Classics
    website. They offer Verichrome Pan in 103 size. It's not cheap
    though...
     
  9. In fact my idea is to order a roll of bergger to use it .
    But I need to give them a precise size. At the same time I haven't
    any spool so I can't give it.

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    Thanks all for your help
     
  10. You could always order a roll from Film Classics, and forward it (or
    the measurements) to Bergger. That should solve your problem!
    Regards, ;^D)
     
  11. Yes doremus,

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    I think about that, And I already contact them to order some roll.
    but as Bergger hvae a 8 weeks delay. I want to order it as soon as
    possible
     
  12. Christian, I think part of the cost (or an addition??) to the Film for
    Classics stuff, is a deposit on the spool itself. They have varying
    amounts for the different types of film. I can understand the price of
    the film given the limited market for this stuff, but I'm just curious
    about Bergger. Is it any cheaper to get them to custom make the film
    for you? Unless you have a collection of the spools to begin with. I
    don't have any experience with Bergger so if they do alot of special
    order stuff, never mind the question...
     
  13. in fact Bergger make all special order without tax and limit. They
    got a price for the square meter and I just have to ask for rool ,
    sheets or what ever the thing I want they to it and from a little
    pieces to a big one
     
  14. The last time I spoke with film for classics (RECENTLY) they were
    *not* selling verichrome 103 anymore. however, i buy 5" aerial plus
    from them. it ain't cheap either: $20 for a 4' roll. they *might* cut
    aerial to 103, but i wouldn't count on it. btw, 103 is only about
    3-11/16" wide, at least what i bought from them was that wide, and it
    fit a kodak panorama #4 perfectly, which was designed for that film.
     
  15. Just bought three rolls of Verichrome 103 (from 1945-1947), it's 100mm between the flanges. (For the record. Not that anyone will custom-slit film anymore.)
     
  16. Film should be slightly narrower, such that the paper sort-of seals to the spool ends.
    (Even though a little light usually gets through, and fogs the film edge.)
    I am not so sure that sites with tables of widths keep this distinction.

    You should be able to get the film width measuring the space between film guides,
    though cheaper cameras might not have anything to measure.

    It is strange, though, that some films are nice inch values, and others nice mm values.

    As for custom slitting, I once cut down some film on an ordinary paper cutter, with electrical
    tape to mark the width that I wanted it. (So I could feel it in the dark.)
     
  17. Only 20 years too late to be of use to the OP!

    It's a bit like expecting a modern cycle-shop to have a spare tyre for an 'ordinary' (penny-farthing) bicycle. Or rolling into Kwik-Fit in a model T Ford for a new exhaust system.

    Eventually, you have to face obsolescence.
     
    Last edited: Apr 16, 2021
  18. I suppose so, but the comment I wrote apply to any film size, and any time.

    It seems that 120 goes back to 1901, so still around after 120 years.
     

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