tim_atherton2 Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 Okay, a trivia question (to which I do not know that answer...). Why do some Wollensak lenses apparently have the writing around the front of the lens barrel printed in reverse - that is, a mirror image, so the writing is all back to front? I just bought one of these off ebay - a 15" f10 Apo Raptar. And no, it's not a Photoshop accident - check out the second image. I vaguely remembered seeing this before - I think it is in Steve Simmons LF book - 4 lenses in one photo, and the Wollensak has the writing on the front (nowhere else on it) mirrored... weird huh? http://tinyurl.com/a8hq http://tinyurl.com/a8hm tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcrisp Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 Tim: The important question is whether they make the image look right side up on the ground glass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arne_croell Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 I assume since these are process lenses, you could easily read the labeling of the installed lens holding a mirror below it (e.g. in a vertical process camera) Just a guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_fromm2 Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 I recently asked the same question of a flea market, sorry, camera show, vendor. His answer matched Arne's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
struan_gray Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 Process lenses were sometimes used with a gigantic prism or a first surface mirror stuck on the front. Process cameras were too bulky to rotate for mural prints or copying large originals, and in any case, their tracking and other controls all relied on gravity acting in a particular direction, so the solution was to use a prism or mirror to turn the optic axis through 90°. Another advantage of the prism/mirror is that the negative would be a reversed image of the original, and could therefore be contact printed emulsion-to-emulsion for the best sharpness and highest contrast. Old time printers have told me this was the best way to make copy prints from screened images and keep the individual halftone dots/shapes looking good. I assume the reversed writing is so that anyone looking through the mirror box to see which lens they were holding could read the text. For best results the prism/mirror had to be well-aligned, so you wouldn't want to remove it just to read the front bezel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_shiu Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 I think these were used with a right-angle prism mounted on the front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_greenberg_motamedi Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 Yup, its a big mirror. Kodak Copying Ektanons have the same reversed print. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason_greenberg_motamedi Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 Big prism I meant... here is an example<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
struan_gray Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 Some of them are mirror boxes, some are prisms. A prism is more dimensionally stable, and less prone to getting dust or other blemishes on the reflecting surface, but the long path length through the glass can introduce spherical aberration, so sometimes a mirror was preferred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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robert_a._zeichner1 Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 Perhaps you have the Russian version, a Wollensky Apo Raptovich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merg_ross Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 Tim, I have two of the 15" Apo Raptars of which you speak. I think your question has been adequately addressed but will add the following: the reverse printing appears on the "Wollensak Rochester U.S.A." lens while the non reverse lens is simply "Wollensak U.S.A." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pvp Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 That lens originated from Wollensak-OZ. The coriolis force did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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