nick nichols Posted March 16, 2003 Share Posted March 16, 2003 Just got my (secondhand) M6 .58 and a 35 f/1.4 ASPH. I'm just returning to photography as a hobby after 20 years. Back then I shot with a K1000 and loved it and sold it too soon.<br><br> Immediate first impressions after one day with my new outfit:<br> 1. This sucker is HEAVY. <br> 2. The 35 framelines, even on this .58, are not anywhere near as natural to use as the 50 framelines on the .72 I handled in a shop. But use of the 35mm is slowly growing on me.<br><br> - James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_barnett2 Posted March 16, 2003 Share Posted March 16, 2003 They aren't heavy, just well built. Go on a keep fit course and explain to your instructor your muscles are only Pentax size. As for the .58, why? You liked the .72 in the shop?? Beats me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_kastner Posted March 16, 2003 Share Posted March 16, 2003 Hi James! 1. My M6 TTL is heavy too, and I LOVE that. Fits good in the hand, sits good in the hand, and allows an even better low speed than anything fatter and lighter. 2. Framelines are a matter of choice. (a) If you have good eyes and OFTEN no glasses, a 0.72 (as "universal VF") will do for the "best" e.g. most-commonly-used lenses 35 and 50. If you use primarily a 35 and/or have and need glasses, a 0.58 might be better. "Might" means that you yourself have to try out everything in your own hands with or without your own glasses before deciding which is "better". A 0.58 can't register a 135 mm lens, and a 0.85 can't visualize a 28. So, you sometimes have to think of ... "what lens will I buy next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul hart Posted March 16, 2003 Share Posted March 16, 2003 James: it's not heavy - it's the others that are lightweight. You've got a great combination there; the .58 finder is well worth working at, and your lens is the one the rest are measured against. BTW, the lens may be a source of unnecessary weight. I have the 2/35 ASPH. Quality is virtually identical to the 'lux but it's a lot smaller/lighter. Do you need that extra stop, or would faster film do the trick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliot Posted March 16, 2003 Share Posted March 16, 2003 Jim. The 35/1.4 ASPH M weighs about 300 gm. This is light compared with the corresponding lenses for SLRs. I believe Canon's EOS 35/1.4-L is abou 600 gm, similar to the Leica R 35/1.4, and I would bet Nikon's lens is close to 600 gm or in that range. The Leica camera lens combination seem a little heavy because of their small size, compared to a similar SLR outfit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albert knapp md Posted March 16, 2003 Share Posted March 16, 2003 James- It is all relative! It will grow on you and you will soon forget about the weight. Incidentally, did you get the CHROME version of the 35mm lens? Remeber they are far heavier than their black anodized cousins as they are made with brass. If not, just get used to it! It is still lighter than an F5! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick nichols Posted March 16, 2003 Author Share Posted March 16, 2003 A got the .58 (without trying it) because I wanted to improve on the .72 framelines for the 35 lens. And there IS an improvement....but I still find my eye wandering around the frame to see all what's in it. I was hoping it might look like the 50 framelines on the .72, but no such luck. Still, I feel the more I shoot with it, the less of an issue that will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob F. Posted March 16, 2003 Share Posted March 16, 2003 Well, the 35mm on the .58 finder will present a slightly larger image area to the eye, compared to a 50mm on a .72 finder. Actually, (.72/.58) x 35mm equals 43mm; so on the .58, a 35mm lens will present about the same image height and width as a 43mm lens (if there were one) would do on the .72 finder. Thus it still won't be as small in the finder as the 50 with a .72 finder. But you still have the easiest to view RF finder available for the 35mm Leica lens. And I think it will continue to grow on you. Actually I find the 35mm lens perspective to be the most natural of all. Of course, the 40mm lens used on the CL body would give you a view a bit easier to take in at a glance. But that's another story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob soltis Posted March 17, 2003 Share Posted March 17, 2003 James - welcome to the world of Leica. Think of it as solid rather than heavy. The 35ASPH is a fine lens - you'll like it and the images you make with it. Gut licht, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillip_p Posted March 17, 2003 Share Posted March 17, 2003 Congrats on a nice combo. I've been contemplating on getting another M6TTL (.58 this time) since there are quite a few around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g j Posted March 18, 2003 Share Posted March 18, 2003 I find it difficult to believe that someone would complain about a Leica being heavy. I bought mine to be a small, light weight camera to carry when I didn't want to lug a big machine (F5 W/35-70 f2.8 or RB67.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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