Where are "the goods"? Has anyone seen "the goods"?

I saw the goods! Yours! Friendly, (really) my advice - next time you want to take a picture, take two glasses of whisky before. Maybe you will manage to put the subject of your picture out of the dead center. Don't worry, people will still know what you wanted to show them - they will just see it better... ;-))

I do not have a scanner so I have not posted any photographs. You can see some of my images in B&W Magazine in some of the ads for Labwork - The Black & White Lab. Also there should be a "Spotlight" feature on me in a future issue of B&W where you can see my work.

Hey Eric I have no problem, is the bufoon who has taken the role of defender of the faith who wont let go. I find it rather sad, sort of a half assed Don Quijote....without Sancho....or Rosinante, or.....well you get the idea.

No problem Jorge, see you over at the other forum.

I did let go Gasteazoro, as I said, I avoid you as much as I avoid stepping in dog---- on my morning walk, but you persist in namcalling and disrespect, when you quit doing it, then I'm thrugh with you.

Well you persist on harrasing me, so I dont see why I should not do the same to you. You have taken upon you to argue with me and dont have enough intelligence to read carefully to what was said. The you go on and on about "posting" when I said <b>critique</b>. If I insulted anubody then let those who feel insulted take it up with me. You on the other hand had no bussiness with me,other than your bleeding heart attituted and defender of the honor of photo.net critics. So yes I tried to ask you to let it go and ignore me, but on the other hand I am not going to let a moron like you try to intimidate me into not speaking my mind. As I said you are unbalanced and your behavior is typical of an obssesed stalker. When I see your post I scroll right over them, they are usually worthless, but then if you want to continue this I am all for it. Is really funny and pathetic seeing you struggle like this. BTW I really hope this kid pictures does not happen I am not sure of your intentions.

The more you lash out with personal attacks the more I will stay logical, knowing how you feel about it Gasteazoro, convinces me I'm on the right track.

 

I have two beautiful children and a wife of twenty years, a happy and wholesome family with me as it's caretaker. I love my family much too much as to spend 5 seconds even considering stalking you, now if you have specific information that I'm out to harm anyone/stalk anybody, it's your duty to relay that information to the appropriate folks, NOW IF YOU DON'T ANYTHING, THEN QUIT WHINING.

 

You lash out with contiually worse insults until somebody goes ballistic, and after the moderators kick that individual off the forum, you play the martyr. I'm not going ballistic, I'm going to respond to you with cold, hard logic, when you get tired of calling me names, and assaulting my character, then this will be over.

LOL...cold hard logic...that is a first for you. Seems to me you are the one whining. I will try to say this again, you feel I was insulting well let those who were insulted respond to me. Funny thing is you keep explaning yourself to me, as if my opinon matter. Why? I could not care less what you do, how many children you have (poor kids) or anything. All I want is you mind your own bussiness. If I respond to one of your comments you are welcome to respond, otherwise stay away from my posts. Is that simple, apparently this is something you cannot comprehend. If you dont understand it in english I will be glad to put it in spanish, for you.

 

As to your cold hard logic, you are the one who gets all emotional and become the defender of the faith. What, is it your job to defend everybody here? I am sure everybody here is very capable of defending themselves if they feel the need to do so.

 

SO yes to put is very clearly, I feel there is something dishonest and unfair and down right cowardly when people who post 13000 critiques or more do not have a single image posted. If that applies to you, well then it goes for you too. If not, then what is your problem?

Notice I said <b>critique</b> not forum posts. Can you understand this? if not please look up the word in the dictionary.

 

I suggest <b>you</b> quit your whining and mind your own bussiness.

<p><B>I'M NOT PICKING SIDES HERE</b></P>

<P>Obviously you two have <i>issues</i>. <u>Please take it off line</u> and communicate with each other via email. Your discussions, while entertaining, are not what one would expect to see on this forum. I'm not interested in who's right, who's been wronged, or who's going to give up first.

Eric, I agree in principle. I had agreed with the moderator's intervetion to not get involved with this guy. I had agreed to not e mail him and not respond to his posts. But he continues to do so, I kept to my end of the bargain as agreed with Björn, but this guy apparently cant let it go. Nothing would please me more than to have this guy leave me alone, and mind his own bussiness. OTOH he is nobody to tell me what I should or should not write. To be honest if I was the moderator I would have deleted both his and my responses a long time ago, and put a stop to this.

Everyone knows that images look like sh*t on a monitor. However, having said that, what does it matter. Surely we should be interested in the content, the images, the ideas and NOT worry about a less than excellent presentation.<p>I must admit I have always wondered about the lack of LF images on photo.net, considering how busy this forum is.<p>So come on you LF-ers, stop talking and start showing.<p><a href="http://www.keithlaban.co.uk">www.keithlaban.co.uk</a>

Pissing matches really depress me...

Eric Rose et al, as I've said, I'm not interested in anything Gasteazoro says, but will defend myself against namecalling, or his reference to my 'poor kids', Gasteazoro has said four or five times that 'this is my last post, I swear'.

 

I've made two posts/threads involving Gasteagoro over a period of about a year, any accusations that I'm doing anything other than participating in this forum is bullshit.

 

So I'll direct this to Eric Rose, I already told him, that I had avoided him for quite some time which is true, there's no planer way for me to put it.

 

Gasteazoro has it backwards, just tell him to go away, that without the namecalling, or insinuations from a guy who doesn't know what I look like let alone even lives in the same country.

 

I haven't once called Gasteazoro a name or made a veiled suggestion that he has something inappriopiate in his past or in his characterter, yet he insists I'm bothering him.

 

He asked me to avoid him and I said I would, but now while he continues the insults, he can go away easily, just stop disrespecting me and we're both gone.

I'll will stop when you stop involving yourself in my bussiness. You are nobody to tell me what I can post or not. If it is inappropiate let the moderator deal with it, not you, you are nobody or any better than anybody here. If you had continued to avoid me nothing like this would have happened, but you took it upon yourself to butt in on something it did not concern you. So now dont cry now, you dont like me calling you a bufoon then avoid me, dont quote me, dont respond to my posts. I will not stand for someone like you to try and stop me from posting. As to not living in the US I did for 24 years and found many many people like you who think they have to fight everybody's battles, well as I said if you minded your own bussiness this would have been avoided. I complied with Björn's request to avoid any dealings with you, but apparently you are a busybody who has to be in everybody's bussines. As soon as you will leave me alone I will be glad to stop also, otherwise this is going to be a long and boring thread.

Nice pictures Keith, thanks for sharing. I find my images look like s**t as well on the web, but I have posted a few non the less. I felt as some others do that who am I to critique anyone with out showing that I can at least use a camera. I shot stock for a very long time so most of my best stuff is on slides. Having no slide scanner kind of limits what I can post. One of these days I will find a good deal on a slide scanner and then I'm of to the races.

 

I noticed however that you mentioned your pics on your site are all MF. Do you have any LF stuff posted anywhere? Just out of interest on my part.

:-(

'SAD'.................Yes it it is, Gasteazoro won't take yes or no or halway for an answer.

 

Go off Gasteazoro, as mean and as nasty as you please, and I will insist on Respect, and civility, you cannot give it so I will sit back and enjoy the show.

 

You asked and got the answer you wanted, you just too pigheaded to take it, say what you want, It's diarrhea whatever end it comes out of.

I agree with Graeme, this is very sad and I am tired of this. So you wanted "cold hard logic" brewer, I will give it to you, but beware of what you wish you just might get it. I will decidely prove to averybody here how much of a moron and a hypocrite you are.<p>

 

Let me start first with your very first response:<p>

 

<i>There are a couple of morons on this forum who go around calling folks 'wannabes' based on nothing more than sheer ignorance, and their willingness to do that is more a comment on them than the folks they are talking about. </i><p>

 

Notice the first time the word <b>moron</b> was used it was by <b>YOU</b><p>

 

The first time someone was insulting in this thread it was <b>YOU</b><p>

 

Is your opinon of these people based on fact? do you know them? or is just that <b>you</b> are allowed to be insulting but nobody else? You are a hypocrite, you pontificate and lecture on being civil and at the same time you are guitly of the same offense. I suppose you got this from being a corrections guard, well let me tell you in the real world you are nobody to pontificate and lecture, much less teach manners, you dont have the intelligence.<p>

 

It is a shame that english has to be explained to you by a person not native to the language. When I said I thought it was lame to post so many critiques without posting an image, I was expressing a beleif, you on the other hand were insulting right from the beguinning. You dont agree with me, fine, but dont lecture me, you are not smart enough.<p>

 

You went on and on about how I was insulting to people who posted here, when all the time what I had said was <b>critique</b> I swear my 2 month old dog has a greater attention span and focusing ability than you demonstrate.<p>

 

You said I am disrispectfull to you, is true I do not respect you, why should I? You are nobody, and specially you are nobody to judge who is disrispectful or not. As I said if I am wrong let the moderator deal with me, or those who feel I insulted them. If you are one of those who post that many critiques then on top of not respecting you I also think you are a coward. If you are not, then why are you becomming imbroigled in my bussiness? <p>

 

So you say I am insulting you when I call you a moron? I am not, I am merely applying the correct adjetive to a person who has proven to be a hypocrit, who has taken a moral stance when he is guilty of the same offense, a person who pretends to be the one to correct and lecture others in this forum, and who does not have the intelligence and focusing ability to remember what he wrote before chastizing people. Yes <b>YOU ARE A MORON AND A HYPOCRIT</B><P>

 

I would reccommend you dont use "cold hard logic" in the future, you are not very good at it!<p>

having proven my point I have no desire to continue posting on this matter, you may have the last word, but as proven here it is that of a fool.

How long does this infantile flame war persist? Do these two guys eventually get married? It is amazing that these are two (supposed) adults. Neither one seems to be big enough or mature enough to just let it drop.

 

Hey, you two boys, if I have to stop this post and separate you two you are going to be sorry!!!!

I was not refering to you when I spoke of morons, as I said I have not called you out of name in this thread nor will I engage in it now.

 

That's an awful lot of typing Gasteazoro, for rehashing the same old stale insults, respect Gasteazoro, you don't have it for anybody regardless of this thread, which was what I was pointing out in my thread in first place the more you type the more unreasonble you show yourself to be.

you're both a**holes, and no, you're not entertaining, you're boring.

<i>That's an awful lot of typing Gasteazoro</i><p>

Yeah well, things have to be explained slowly to you. Sorry everybody I promise this really is the last time......Lol.

To Eric Rose and Peter Lehrmna et al, as I have said, I'm will to disengage from this post right now and I will do it with respect, as long as I have gotten respect.

 

Gasteazoro doesn't want to avoid me which is why he is up to typing three pages of insults, and if that is not true Gasteazoro, then go away without the namecalling or snide remarks and I will do the same.

 

That's as reasonable as I can be, and that's as reasonable as I'm going to be, if he doens't want to do that, then he just doesn't want to be reasonable.

<i>Gasteazoro doesn't want to avoid me which is why he is up to typing three pages of insults, and if that is not true Gasteazoro, then go away without the namecalling or snide remarks and I will do the same</i><p>

 

That sounds wonderful to me, is what I have been asking from the beguining. You ignore me, I will ignore you and everybody is happy. <p>

 

Ken, you dont want to be involved in this, trust me! So I will chalk up your comment to frustration. I feel the same way.

"bel