Wouldn't This Be About The Best Filter Holder??

Mr. Saloman,<P>

 

After clicking on your link in the above post, and then clicking the

bottommost link along left side for "filter holder", is this in fact the

standard holder for Heliopan?<P>

 

I converted the description with software, and even though it's

rough, does it imply that it has 105mm thread? Would this mount

on the Schneider 72? (Translated text below:)<P>

 

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A tip product is the pro-filter stops under development of

Filterhaltern for foil and glass filter. The outstanding plan

situation of the foil and glass filter and the practical

Auswechslung the individual work with filter of all type eases for

the pro. That hold is made entirely out of metal and has front

and heckseitig the same thread. The pro stops is available with

the screw threads 105X1 for inserting the size 4�x4� inch and the

thread IT 77 for inserting the size 3�x3� inch. That hold is

revolving and related in connection to Adaptern to each lens.

 

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"After clicking on your link in the above post, and then clicking the bottommost

link along left side for "filter holder", is this in fact the standard holder for

Heliopan?"

 

It is one of our holders. There is also one just for gels in 4x4 and 3x3 sizes

and one for rectangular glass filters in 3x5 and 4x6" sizes.

Mr. Salomon,

 

I guess I must be quite literal here. Then, after this question, is

there a link to the other holders that you now mention? Is there

an English site somewhere with all of these Heliopan holders

listed?

 

Thanks.

"I guess I must be quite literal here. Then, after this question, is there a link to

the other holders that you now mention? Is there an English site somewhere

with all of these Heliopan holders listed?"

 

The gel holders are on page 38 of the current Heliopan catalog and the

Rotating Holders for rectangular filters are on page 34.

 

if you are in the US we can mail you one.

"I guess I must be quite literal here. Then, after this question, is there a link to the other holders that you now mention? Is there an English site somewhere with all of these Heliopan holders listed?"

 

what - you want internet service as well! You don't pay enough extra to the importer to get that - there's value added and then there's is value added... :-)

Hey Dan, This is not a stupid thread.

 

Buying a filter system is more difficult than buying a lens I think. Where else in the world can you ask "what filter works with my 58mm lens on a 4X5?" In most parts of the world you have to buy something unseen via mail order and spend a load of money on it THEN decide if it works for you or not. So you go out and make a vignetted picture with your new $500 filter holder and filters and hood and then learn that you should have bought something else. That's why people ask questions here. I guess in Utah you just go over to "Filters R Us" where they carry every filter thingy known to man and pick yours up off the shelf. ; >)

<I>The gel holders are on page 38 of the current Heliopan

catalog and the Rotating Holders for rectangular filters are on

page 34. if you are in the US we can mail you one.</i>

 

Mail? What is mail? I can't believe it, but I feel myself aligning

with Scott Fleming for once -- Schneider has no English

language website? Are all the money-making LF guys only in

Germany?

 

And I hope nobody counters with the fact that websites are

expensive, blah blah, because printing a bunch of slick 4/C

brochures are expensive, (and ineffective) at the same time.

Yes Mark mail. And we mail it at NC. If you can read German you can see the

Profi Holder on the Heliopan web site. But they do not have an English web

site, sorry.

You guys are way too tough on Bob. Here's a picture of Heliopan filter holder with a HiTech Y8 (yellow #8) 4x4" filter. You can screw it into a lens with a 95mm thread, and use 105mm shade or filters on the front.

 

Bob,

 

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

 

Cheers,

Here's a picture of the same Y8 filter with a HiTech filter holder.

Thanks Geoffrey, that Heliopan holder looks very nice!

I appreciate the preview. Now I know what I am getting as the Camera and lenses I just bought seems to be coming with a few extras I did not know about and this setup is part of the package.

No Geoff,

 

That is not the filter holder from Heliopan that I was talking about.

 

The one you show appears to be the rotating holder for rectangular graduated

glass filters. It has a slot the filter slips through for positioning.

 

The one I am talking about does not have a slot, it is a book type rotating

holder rotates in one direction only, that closes tightly with 2 magnets. It has

springs to ensure that glass, acrylics or gels are held tight and flat and can

use any combination of filters up to about 8mm thick. It is threaded in front to

accept either 77mm (3x3 holder) or 105mm (4x4 holder) screw-in filters and

or hoods. They also make long and short screw-in metal hoods that can screw

together as well as convertible rubber hoods.Metal hoods are available up to

122mm diameter screw-in and rubber up to 105mm.

If by the "Lee . . clip on the lens itself deal" you're referring to the Lee rubber band/filter holder system, I've been using that and it works pretty well. I've also used the more sophisticated Lee compendium shade/adapter ring system and it worked well on my Tachihara but not on my Linof Tech V. The problem on the Linhof is that with several lenses the camera bed interfered with the ability to rotate the hood/adapter ring(i.e. the hood couldn't be screwed onto the lens because you couldn't turn the hood without interference from the camera bed). There were a couple work arounds but I found them awkward and inconvenient to use. That's why I switched to the rubber band system, which I like reasonably well.

 

The good features are that it's very small and light, inexpensive (for the rubber band and holder, the Lee filters themselves are fairly expensive), and the system can be used with any lens diameter (i.e. you only buy one set of filters and one holder). The downsides are that with a small lens such as the 150 G Claron it isn't that easy to get the rubber band taut around the exterior of the lens plus you can't use the Lee polarizer (asuming you were willing to spend the $150 for it in the first place) because you can't rotate the filter holder/rubber band so you still need to buy circular glass polarizers for your different lenses (assuming, of course, that you use polarizers). I actually prefer the glass circular filters that I use with my Pentax 67 system but I got tired of having to buy three of each color filter (red, green, orange, and polarizers) plus two adapter rings for my five 67 lenses (naturally all five lenses take different size filters).

Bob,

 

Do you mean this one?

That is the one