larry n. Posted December 8, 2002 Share Posted December 8, 2002 AF-s 80-200 f/4AF-s 400mm f/424mm tilt/shift with automatic diaphragm I know, I should stop peeking at the Canon EF lens spec sheet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkka_nissila Posted December 8, 2002 Share Posted December 8, 2002 The 80-200/2.8 AF-D N is not much more expensive than the EF 70-200/4. I do agree that a f/4 telezoom would be nice to have but frankly, I quite often need the f/2.8 for the applications that I use the lens most for ... concerts, street photos and shallow dof shots. The f/2.8 aperture makes the zoom quite a useful lens! If you need a 400/4, you can buy an AF-S 300/2.8 and 1.4x teleconverter. Or a 500/4. For what application do you need tilt in a 24 mm lens? At least I get very sharp images by just stopping down my 24, without the hassle of a tilt/shift lens. I don't think Nikon could easily implement automatic aperture for PC lenses without changing the electrical contacts in the lens-camera interface. Even with the EF 24 mm lens, I believe you still cannot accurately meter with the shift or tilt adjusted off-center, so the benefit is only for using it as a normal 24 mm lens. Having a manual aperture allowed for the optimal placement of the aperture blades ... in the front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_h._hartman Posted December 8, 2002 Share Posted December 8, 2002 I�ll second this wish list and add a decent tripod collar for the AF-S 300/4.0D ED-IF. I�d be happy with a 24mm tilt shift with a preset aperture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkka_nissila Posted December 8, 2002 Share Posted December 8, 2002 Yeah, and when they do introduce a new tripod collar for the 300/4, let's hope it's compatible with the existing lenses! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShunCheung Posted December 8, 2002 Share Posted December 8, 2002 As far as I am concerned, the old non-removable tripod collar on the 300mm/f4 AF (non D, non AF-S) was just fine. I don't know why one needs a removable tripod collar. If I hand hold, I just rotate the knob to the top so that it gets out of the way. Unfortunately, Nikon hasn't made any good removable tripod collars. Their non-removable ones are just fine and I wish Nikon had stayed with them. There was a mini camera show at my local pro camera store (K&S in Palo Alto, northern California). I had the opportunity to speak with two different Nikon representatives. One told me that more VR lenses in addition to the 70-200mm/f2.8 G will be introduced in 2003. The other one told me that he wasn't sure Nikon would add VR to it long telephotos. Not sure how to believe. There are actually many different versions of 70/80-200 AF zooms that are smaller than f2.8, but they are of lower quality. By the way, one of those Nikon reps got very defensive when I told him that AF on the D100 was too slow for action shots. He tried to convince me that the AF module in the D100 was top notch, and he was surprised when I pointed out that the AF module in the D100 is the Multi CAM 900, same as those in the consumer-grade N65 and N80 while the F5, F100 and the D1 series all use the superior Multip CAM 1300, which is 6-year-old technology already. Anyway, that conversation didn't go very well at all. The fact of the matter is that the D1h and D1x are getting old and that is the one area Nikon really needs to upgrade soon. But this thread is about lenses, so that is somewhat off topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl smith Posted December 8, 2002 Share Posted December 8, 2002 I'm still waiting for the 28-200 2.8 AFS VR Pop-Photo (or was it shutterbug) promised us a while ago. Personally I think that was a typo for the new 14-400 1.4 ED IS AFS VR LMNOP XYZ lens from nikon with 4 removable tripod rings and its own flatbed truck for handling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Tardio Posted December 8, 2002 Share Posted December 8, 2002 I'd like to see a 28-70/2.8 lens that's not the size of a 1 lb. coffee can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_lofquist Posted December 8, 2002 Share Posted December 8, 2002 Decaf or Regular? Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umd Posted December 9, 2002 Share Posted December 9, 2002 I don't think Nikon will introduce a 70/80-200/4, cause something close to that already exists, it is the 70-180 ed micro. Tilting in a wide angle lens isn't a very attractive feature. What Nikon needs is a 24/28-135/200 VR, and a REAL 70-200/2.8 VR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan_verschoote1 Posted December 9, 2002 Share Posted December 9, 2002 It would be nice if Nikon made an affordable 400/4.5 like Minolta. (with VR and AFs included). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_gifford Posted December 9, 2002 Share Posted December 9, 2002 You guys think small. Okay, Nikon, here's the deal: We need an entirely new line of lenses that take the place of all current Nikkors. The new "Z" lenses all will have vibration reduction technology and silent wave motors for autofocus, and all will be capable of manual focus without the need for a button or switch (on the lens or the camera body) to allow manual focus. When focussed manually they will feel silky and thoroughly damped like the better AIS Nikkors. All the "Z" lenses will have aperture rings so they can be used on older Nikon bodies. All will have CPUs to provide distance info to bodies that use it, and to allow for use in multiple metering and automatic exposure modes on older bodies. Two filter sizes (52mm and 77mm) will accommodate the entire range of "Z" lenses. None of the "Z" lenses will feature front elements that rotate during either focusing or zooming. All "Z" lenses weighing more than 500g will have lugs that mate to a quick-release tripod mount. For every "Z" series lens that costs more than $500, Nikon will offer an alternative in the same focal length(s) that costs less than $500 but has a smaller maximum aperture. (Okay, photo.net folks, send your cards and letters supporting the AF-Z series to Nikon. Tell 'em we want just one lens line, with the best of the AI era plus modern electronics, and we want it to work with bodies new and old, and we want it soon.) Have fun, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglas_green1 Posted December 9, 2002 Share Posted December 9, 2002 Jim, stop smoking those funny cigarettes that you got from the guy in Dreadlocks on the beach in Jamaica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry n. Posted December 9, 2002 Author Share Posted December 9, 2002 Gosh, you guys, and to think I felt shy about asking for a lowly 80-200 f/4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_gifford Posted December 9, 2002 Share Posted December 9, 2002 They must be good stuff, because I don't remember the guy, don't remember the Dreadlocks and don't even remember being in Jamaica. But, hey, the thread is about wish lists and so I figure why not wish BIG. Be well, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivsimler Posted December 9, 2002 Share Posted December 9, 2002 I just wish Nikon could remotely keep a schedule. I was just in my ye ole neighborhood camera shop (Central Camera here in Chicago) and was informed that this nebulous 80-200 VR f/2.8 lens is now delayed until late January. Oh yeah supposedly it might now be a 70-210 lens and the current 80-200 AF-S lens will be/has been discontinued. Now considering I'm been hoping to spend my bonus on this lens, since maybe October, before a trip in mid-February I'm getting pretty f'ing pissed at this company. Makes me think Godzilla should smoosh the crap out of these idiot savantes. George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl smith Posted December 9, 2002 Share Posted December 9, 2002 <raise temp>That's why I shoot Canon!!</raise temp> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_h._hartman Posted December 10, 2002 Share Posted December 10, 2002 George, years ago it was almost impossible to get a 105/2.5. To get a replacement for a customer who had is gear stolen one camera shop owner finally marked his purchase order "Ship all or cancel." I got mine by swapping a store a clean 135/2.8 for an equally clean 105/2.5. I guess the 135/2.8 was a faster selling item and almost as difficult to get. This was about 1971. Somethings never change. Regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin_steele Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 A nikon rep yesterday mentioned March 2003 for the 70-200 VR... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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