andy_piper2 Posted November 4, 2002 Share Posted November 4, 2002 I've seen a number of reviews and posts that recommend, for inkjet photo printing, that the picture file have a resolution, at final printed size, of 250-300 ppi (e.g. 2400 x 3000 pixels for an 8x10 image). Yet math tells me that a generic 1440 x 1440 inkjet printer cannot produce the full range of tones contained in a 24-bit color image at anything higher than 90 ppi. As follows: A 24-bit image has 256 levels of brightness for each color. To reproduce those 256 levels accurately the printer must be able to lay down 256 dots of each color ink per image pixel - i.e. a range of brightness from zero dots (white) to 256 dots (solid color). To get a range of 256 levels, then, each pixel must be represented on paper by an array of 16 x16 dots (256 total). Divide 1440 (linear dots) by 16 (linear dots per pixel) and you get 90 (pixels). If you try to print images at higher resolutions, you must cut down the number of ink drops available to render each pixel, progressively 'posterizing' the image as fewer and fewer steps are left between pure white and pure color. At an image resolution of 288 ppi, for example, the printer can only lay down a 5 x 5 array of dots per pixel (26 tonal levels per color vs. the original file's 256). The extreme example would be printing a very-high-res scan of 1440 ppi (at final image size) - in which case the poor printer is left with a binary choice - each pixel gets 1 dot or 0 dot for each of the 4 (or 6 or 7) printing colors - a very limited palette. It seems to me that what Epson (and other printer makers) must do is create - in the spooling process - a standard moderate-resolution version of the image (regardless of the actual file size) that is a compromise between fine detail and reasonable tonal variation. My own guess is that this 'on-the-fly-resampled' image is actually about 180 ppi - which works out to a nice digital 8x8 array of printer dots available for each pixel, or 65 tonal levels for each of the inks. Which guess is born out, somewhat, by the fact that, in making test prints of the same image at 150, 200, 250 and 300 ppi resolution, I (personally) can't see any improvement in the prints' rendering of fine detail in the versions above 200 ppi. So what is the benefit of using a higher-resolution image file? Anyway I would appreciate any insights or comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim_brown5 Posted November 4, 2002 Share Posted November 4, 2002 I don't have an answer but keep in mind that the better ink jet printers aca vary the ink drop size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_corb Posted November 4, 2002 Share Posted November 4, 2002 the means a modern inkjet printer uses to render tones are more complex: dots of diffent inks can overlap; the dot size can be modulated; 6-ink printers use light versions of the cyan and magenta inks to provide an additional level of control; inks are not laid down in regular arrays of dots, instead techniques such as stochastic and fm screening are used combining these measures allows fine gradation at high enough resolutions, but the gradation will get coarser as details shrink i was interested by your question so i made a test image of many overlapping/crossing single pixel lines, geometric patterns and single pixels the lines/pixels were a mix of neutral, near neutral, and rgbcmy, all on an off-neutral background on a canon s9000 this pattern is well rendered at 300ppi , using a loupe to examine the image the single pixels are still square, each line is sharp, the colours visibly match the target file printed at 600ppi things are fuzzier, but the lines, including single pixels, are still rendered in a colour that looks approximately right, but the dot diffusion pattern in visible now so it is no longer possible to say what the 'real' colour is the printer is laying down dots that would be invisible to the eye to create an illusion of continuous tone, at normal viewing distances i'd be happy that it was capable giving me 'many' bits of colour on the scale of features that my eye can resolve (whether it is thousands of colours or millions i couldn't say) it cannot do this over the finest features it can render, but my eyes can't tell anyway, for the fine detail sharpness is more important than subtleties of tone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackflesher Posted November 4, 2002 Share Posted November 4, 2002 Also, keep in mind that one single 300 dpi "dot" reuires about 24 1440 dpi "dots" to fill it. The "area" of these dots is a second-order mathematical relationship, while dpi refers to linear output. Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noshir_patel Posted November 4, 2002 Share Posted November 4, 2002 Also, dithering algorithms don't actually require you to agregate multiple pixels into one "superpixel". This is the reason why you could (back in the old days) reproduce with arguably reasonable quality a photograph on a 16 color 640x480 display using an error diffusion dither (which pushes the rounding error to nearby pixels before they are rounded so as to preserve the overall tonality). Inkjet printers use a variation of error diffusion dithering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_genevrier Posted November 5, 2002 Share Posted November 5, 2002 You're right in your assumption that the driver provides a on-th-fly resampling. But it is an upsampling to 720 dpi! Take a look at following page: http://www.ddisoftware.com/qimage/quality/ I very rarely work with 720 dpi images, but with 360 dpi and an appropriately tuned accentuation (USM or whatsoever), you will see the finer details with the naked eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emre Posted November 5, 2002 Share Posted November 5, 2002 <i>But it is an upsampling to 720 dpi!</i><p>I remember reading this, but that was when the resolution of the EPSON printers was 720 dpi (e.g., 2880x720). Now that there are 2880x1440 dpi and (soon, presumably) 2880x2880 dpi printers, does that mean the upsampling will be to 1440 dpi and 2880 dpi, respectively?<p>Anyway, my experience with the EPSON 820 corroborates yours: changing the printer resolution generally makes no difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakari_m_kel_ Posted November 8, 2002 Share Posted November 8, 2002 Andy, which software you use for printing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_piper2 Posted November 9, 2002 Author Share Posted November 9, 2002 Sakari: Direct from PhotoShop via Epson's standard Mac driver (Epson 600 - thus the references to 4 inks). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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