kristian dowling Posted July 27, 2002 Share Posted July 27, 2002 June 1996 BAS Report Summaries. The actual test pages were too many to scan. Hope you'll be happy with these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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konrad_beck1 Posted July 28, 2002 Share Posted July 28, 2002 BAS tests of many lenses were published in the 1980th in the german 'fotomagazin'. If I remember correctly, they called all lenses with optical and mechanical quality at 9.0 and above "super"; about one third of all the lenses were "super" including Vivitars, Tamrons, Tokinas etc.... For the Tamron 180/2.5, they first have given it a low score, but a year later (this lens had gotten rather good reviews from other magazins), it also was "super". I doubt whether they tested a new sample. I do have no confidence in these BAS "tests". From those lens tests I have seen, I trust most the ones published in Chasseur d'Image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mottershead Posted July 28, 2002 Share Posted July 28, 2002 Kristian, this material looks useful; but it also looks like it is someone else's copyrighted material. Do you have permission to post this? If not, I'm afraid it violates the photo.net Terms of Use and I will need to delete this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kristian dowling Posted July 28, 2002 Author Share Posted July 28, 2002 So what are you waiting for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray_moth Posted July 28, 2002 Share Posted July 28, 2002 I don't trust it either. Why would the 24mm Elmarit-R be rated higher that the 60mm Macro-Elmarit-R? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesrani Posted July 29, 2002 Share Posted July 29, 2002 Why is that, Brian? It's just referenced, not quoted directly or copied into photo.net. I don't believe referencing a work violates its copyright. Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furcafe Posted July 29, 2002 Share Posted July 29, 2002 Rob: I think Brian may be correct. They aren't links to Schultze's web site, but are pages from the Report Summaries that were scanned & "copied" (uploaded) into photo.net. Posting excerpts could be considered "fair use" of the copyrighted material, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mottershead Posted July 29, 2002 Share Posted July 29, 2002 Kristian, I was waiting for you to say that you have permission to post these scans from the BAS report. They are not links (which would be fine) but uploaded scans of the original report. I'll leave this thread a little longer so that you and others who have posted to it will not be left wondering what happened to it. I appreciate your interest in providing something useful to the forum, but we need to respect others' copyrights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albert_smith Posted July 29, 2002 Share Posted July 29, 2002 Just to add another point to this to this, I also posted links to my scanned BAS report pages last May. I prefaced the links with my narrative about my attempts to locate and get permission from the author, and my inability to do such. I made a comment about the copyright belonging to the labs, and marked the links as "reference only". In the replies, a reader mentioned that the lab is no longer operating due to the death of the author of the report.<P> After some slowing down of people accessing the reports, I removed the scans from the site, rendering the click-able link inert.<P> <a href="http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=002pz0"> From the archive </a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mottershead Posted July 30, 2002 Share Posted July 30, 2002 This situation isn't clear. It seems like a valuable resource, and it would be nice to have these reports available on-line. It seems like it would be a helpful if somebody could track down the owners of this material (the BAS heirs, perhaps) and obtain their permission to have it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymond_tai Posted July 30, 2002 Share Posted July 30, 2002 It is "fair use" if you selectively quote from the copyrighted work as part of your own work but is copyright infringement if you merely reproduce it and publish it without the prior permission from the copyright owner. Copying means scanning it onto your harddrive and publishing means providing a link to Photo.net where it can be downloadable to the public. Legally there is not much difference between this and clicking a link to watch the latest pirated Austin Powers movie on your computer. Hey I didn't make this up so don't flame me :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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