michael_alpert1 Posted December 2, 2001 Share Posted December 2, 2001 Steve, <p> Thanks for asking your question. I hope you will return with this question every year or so. This forum and your periodical are rowing in the same direction. I agree with many of the recommendations that have been previously posted. And I am very pleased that the awkward first try at communication (in the previous thread) has become more positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry_martin Posted December 2, 2001 Share Posted December 2, 2001 SteveDan Smith's comments has my vote. I couldn't say it any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james___ Posted December 2, 2001 Share Posted December 2, 2001 Hello Steve, I emailed you a month ago about a photography site that was in need of your help. And you didn't even respond with a curt stick it. I know you are busy but this brings me to my point of what is and has always been missing in View Camera. That feeling of being connected. Being connected to something bigger. Large format shooters are different. And we are snobs. We feel we are in a separate class and we are purists. That feeling of being connected to a group and knowing who's who. That personal touch. John Paul Caponigro? A little too far into metaphysical art talk. Hard to feel connected to him. Jay Dusard? Now that is one plain talkin guy. Easy to become involved with. Ruth Bernhard? What a great story and wonderful photographer. And with a great approach to photography. Nothing hard about her approach. Ron Van Dongen? Flowers that are beautiful. You the architectural shooter. Landscapers, still life shooters. Guys like me that shoot hand held. With modernized old equipment. We LF photographers are all of these and more. I asked you to have a look at a site on the web and see what community means. The site is full of LF photographers, from those just learning to those of us who are already teaching it. Like this site. Large format photographers come here to learn and be a part of something unique. And you are listening to them. But what of the new arrival to large format? Your magazine should link that person to other places and other photographers with whom he can become aquainted and become a member of a larger community. Have you put the address of usefilm.com into your magazine? Just a one line recommendation to go have a look? How about Ed Buffaloes site? What a resource. How about the address of this site? I haven't seen them. But you come here and ask us to purchase your magazine. It deserves something from you in return. Link everyone together. Like a bookmark section. Doesn't cost you much space. Where is the sense of community? That's how you get it. Usefilm.com is such a place. Not a clique like so many yahoo sites. But a really good teaching site. A site that gives lessons and homework to do. Full of nice people willing to help a new arrival get their feet wet. And lots of images to look at. Like your magazine should have in it. So please give usefilm.com a look and find a small place in the magazine for an ad and include this site as well. Create a space for suggested e-sites. Links to large format photographers sites. Help make large format into a family. Link all the resources up. Be a leader in the field. You will find readership will increase dramatically because this will become "the" place to look for all things large format. And I'd like to see a lot more emphasis on images and how they come about. Why did Cy De Cosse start shooting still life and how does he achieve such beautiful results? How did Hurrell light those magnificent portraits? How does Karsch do it? How did Wynn Bullock get such high contrast into his images without blowing out the highlights. How does Tom Barril solarize his polaroid film before he shoots his Botanicals. How about books that are out there that will peak our interest in shooting? There are hundreds of them. Where in Joe Shooters area are galleries where a large format photographer can go see examples of work by other large format shooters. Places to stop when traveling like Dan Smith's gallery in Provo or the venerable The F Stop in Santa Barbara. Or where do you hang out in New Mexico. Make this magazine "The" resource and you won't begin to be able to fill the new subscriptions. And go to usefilm.com and take a look and see what community is like. I plug your magazine there all the time. And some of the other wonderful magazines out there like your companion Camera Arts and B&W and Lenswork. They aren't competitors. They are resources. Just like auto malls. Hint Hint. James Mickelson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis_de_santos Posted December 2, 2001 Share Posted December 2, 2001 I would like to see more articles about the specific aspects of the technique used by well experienced LF photographers,a "how I do it" type of article.I would like to see more european photographers featured,there are some wonderful people outside the US and their experience and take on LF photography would be of interest to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don_wong Posted December 2, 2001 Share Posted December 2, 2001 Steve: <p> Thanks for asking. <p> Please continue to do articles about digital. It�s the future of photography, without a doubt. There may be other sources for information about digital, but the revolution that we�re witnessing deserves to be reported from many different viewpoints, especially the ones that VC can provide. <p> For instance, an article could profile a great digital practitioner, his or her techniques, how those techniques affect the final images, and of course, a portfolio of images. <p> Don�t exclude the perspectives of the working professionals (for digital or film.) For that matter, why make a distinction? All practitioners, commercial, amateur, fine arts, young and old, are gaining experiences that are worth sharing. <p> DW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james phillips Posted December 2, 2001 Share Posted December 2, 2001 As others have said before, I would like to see articles that are directed at the relative newcomer to LF. Realizing that you have probably done these types of articles in earlier years does nothing to help us new subscribers to your magazine. We are seeking out new ideas (to us the beginner), new or used equipment, and more importantly to learn from those that have gone before us. <p> I sometimes feel that as a "newbie" I first have to resolve what your articles are about from other means such as the web before actually digesting the content. As James Mickelson has pointed out there are excellent resources on the web and you might choose to be a focal point for many of these. At the present time I see your magazine in danger of becoming less appealing to new LF photographers like others and myself. <p> Earlier you stated that the readers have claimed that 51% of them are professionals. This is probably true and if you wish to reduce your present readership downwards towards the 51% marker then you will continue to cater to their needs. As for me, my first year subscription has just become due and I have just finished asking myself what value your magazine has provided me for my hard earned dollars? What else might I have done with that money towards increasing my enjoyment in LF? <p> I carefully reviewed the issues I received and compared their useful content to the web, other magazines I subscribe to, and books I have bought. The conclusion I came to is not in your favor. I am now on the fence in regards to renewal and truly am hoping that your magazine may become one of my premier choices in my selected area of interest, which is LF photography. Believe it or not I have just as much "disposable subscription money" as any professional but I am doing it for "the pure joy of it" which would seem to be a very strong driving force. <p> Crossing my fingers and hoping that your magazine changes to include us newcomers. <p> Regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_simmons1 Posted December 2, 2001 Author Share Posted December 2, 2001 I am pleased at so many responses. I will spend the next week or two going through them to see what common threads there are and how to achieve a balance in the case of competing interests (less digital vs digital is ok for example). <p> We are publishing an Article Index in the Jan/Feb 2002 issue covering all articles we've done between our first issue in 1988 through the Nov/Dec 2001 issue. <p> We plan to continue our coverage of the alternative processes, working in the darkroom, we will add more how-to info in each portfolio and do more how-to pieces, etc. We will also do more on table top photography including how-to kinds of articles. <p> steve simmons <p> steve simmons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abiggs Posted December 2, 2001 Share Posted December 2, 2001 Steve, thank you for asking this great community we have here. From the responses so far, you can see that View Camera has many supporters here. Here is my $.02 <p> Here is what I would like to see in future VC issues: Printing articles from 'master' printers, ie John Sexton. Getting started in LF architecture: an insight to equipment needs and techniques. How about an article from an emerging amateur? <p> Since I am new to LF (May of this year), I am unaware of articles pre-2001. Can you publish a list of past issues that you might have sitting around gathering dust? I also like the idea of putting together a digital darkroom for under $1500. I know I might get flamed for that request, but I am at a crossroads for printing, since I don't own my own printing equipment yet. <p> Your workshop this past May was my first exposure to LF, and you were very approachable regarding beginner's questions. I have learned quite a bit from VC Magazine and this forum ever since. Please keep up the good work, and visit here often. <p> Andy Biggs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_smith Posted December 2, 2001 Share Posted December 2, 2001 As another who has the magazines from the first issue I will add one more thing. Through the years I have questioned some of the articles & the slant of a number of issued. But over the years many of those I first thought of little interest to me get another looking at as I move forward, learn more and get more experience. A question comes up & I go looking through back issues & find it, often in one of the articles that didn't interest me the first time or a few years back. I see this as a tough balancing act for Steve, putting out a product people will buy & want to continue to buy while stifling the urge to focus it so narrowly that it covers one aspect completely at the expense of other areas. Each issue is interesting or at least has something of interest for me. I wouldn't mind seeing a few very in depth articles running over a few issues. One thing that might help is a reference box occasionally pointing out earlier issues that covered a similar subject...which might help sales of back issues as well. The format specific issues are fun though surprising in the lack of response from many of us when the call goes out months in advance for images in these formats. Try it again & see if it picks up. Your issues with solid contests are good as well and I wouldn't mind seeing more of them with some very specialized topics or formats mixed in with general 'open image calls'. I could easily see a photo call for infrared or Bergger warmtone or Ilford coldtone or such with prizes from the product makers or distributors as part of the awards. Product or format specific might help bring attention to certain aspects of the LF family. Heck, even announcing something like "Yellowstone in LF B&W" two years ahead of time might spur many who want to go there to shoot to finally get going and result in an interesting issue. I am not quite so worried about pixelography compared to photography but more so with the final image and am most interested in how the images came about, why some were taken and the thought that went into them during various stages of the process. And, I do enjoy the interviews of John Paul Caponigro but sure would like to see an in-depth retrospective of his father as well as some other 'icons of photography' still living, something past the interviews. Some have been done and more remain. Keep up the good work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen_vaughan3 Posted December 3, 2001 Share Posted December 3, 2001 Dear Steve,hope you don't regret asking now! <p> My personal angle on this is from the point-of-view of a professional photographer (only occasionally get to use LF for professional work), most interested in the craft of large-format, 'fine-art' photography, for personal work. I have little interest in digital for LF. <p> The main reason I buy View Camera is for the articles on both big-name and lesser known photographers. Interviews, features etc. which get into the minds of the picture-makers, which talk not only about the technical and practical side of their work, but also about what compels them to make the work, the thought process, the philosophies behind the pictures.I can't believe people are so dismissive of John Paul Caponigro. Do they really want to read a magazine which talks only of technique or equipment, and not about the philosophical or spiritual process of making Art? I read and enjoy many of the articles on technique, but you could swap twenty of those articles for the feature on Sally Mann, or the interview with Richard Misrach, for example. <p> My only criticism, as an Englishman, is that the magzine has a very 'American' flavour. I'm interested, of course, in American photography. However, it would be great to see some work from the UK/Europe. There are some really great people working in large-format over here: Jem Southam, Thomas Joshua Cooper (American I know, but resident in Scotland), Thomas Struth, etc. etc. <p> Finally, I would very much like to see my own work in your magazi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen_vaughan3 Posted December 3, 2001 Share Posted December 3, 2001 Sorry.....in your magazine :-) !! <p> howcome the end of my sentences always cut short? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
said_nuseibeh Posted December 3, 2001 Share Posted December 3, 2001 Who is Captain Ferricyanide? Perhaps he or another maven of Ferricyanide bleaching can offer some hands-on instruction in this process. I've been getting dark yellow stains on Ilford Multigrade paper when doing selective bleaching of dark black lines. Is this staining avoidable? Remediable?Thanks for asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_lipton Posted December 3, 2001 Share Posted December 3, 2001 You should continue your coverage of both traditional and digital processes. However, most import, you should rededicate yourselves to showing fine quality images, and not those of here today-gone tomorrow gallery promoted trendies who lack technique and vision or those of moderately accomplished amateurs who get published primarily because they are famous for other things. There are many lifelong, highly accomplished, professionals who need and deserve greater exposure. At the end of the day we all learn the most from seeing great photographs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_simmons1 Posted December 3, 2001 Author Share Posted December 3, 2001 Here is what we are planning for the next few issues <p> an issue on portraiture in Jan/Feb 2002 <p> an article comparing Azo with vc paper in Jan/Feb 02 <p> an article index from 1989 through 2001 in the Jan/Feb issue <p> an article on color transparency films for outdoor work in jan/feb 2002 <p> John Paul will continue to write as he has time. The reviews on him seem to be mixed but he does bring a context to his articles that no one else does <p> an article on using filters sometime in 2002 (for b&w) <p> an article on Thomas Joshua Cooper is in progress <p> an article on setting up the digital darkroom for less than $1500 sometime in 2002 (black and white and color) <p> an article on making the contact print and an issue showing photographers who only make contact prints - smetime in 2002 <p> we are working on other ideas and reviewing all of your comments. Thanks <p> steve simmons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed_ogrady Posted December 3, 2001 Share Posted December 3, 2001 Steve, thanks for asking. How about more coverage on photographic permanance, archival processing of B&W materials. What does Wilhelm say about this subject? How do the accepted masters in the fine art field process for permanence. What products improve archival permanence most effectively?I have been a subscriber for several years and look forward seeing this subject and the others suggested in upcoming issues.Ed O'Grady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b.d.trabitz___ Posted December 3, 2001 Share Posted December 3, 2001 Steve, I would enjoy a retrospective of Paul Caponegro's work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james___ Posted December 3, 2001 Share Posted December 3, 2001 I would like this opportunity to restate my opinion of John Paul Caponigro and his articles and interviews in View Camera. I reread my response about John Paul's interviews and it wasn't what I meant. I enjoy his interviews very much and his articles on digital printing. I was just using him as an example but failed to do a very good job. Please keep him on the payroll Steve. But also add other voices to your Magazine. Thanks. James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne_crider4 Posted December 3, 2001 Share Posted December 3, 2001 Gee, they came out of the woodwork on this one. <p> My rec's are; Portraiture(covered), competitions, in-depth camera reviews (especially older models for the new enthusiast), old/new lens reviews and test, centerfold (camera optional), handheld 4x5 article, 2x3 cameras article, Dunkin Donuts coupon, View Camera hats and t-shirts. <p> Get up a small budget and I'll produce a TV show for ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus_leonard Posted December 4, 2001 Share Posted December 4, 2001 Gursky, interview him and get him to talk technical. In view of the noise lately on this forum about the going-digital-trend and View Camera's role in this, this may be a useful illustration of combining the best of the two worlds.Also, does Meyerovich still use the same techniques as during his Cape Light project, or did he come up with novel insights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_goldfarb Posted December 4, 2001 Share Posted December 4, 2001 Lots of good suggestions above. <p> Coming from the U.S., I'd also like to see more work on photographersin other parts of the world, where the aesthetic and historicalinfluences are much different from those in the American tradition,Gursky just being one of the biggest names. <p> Hard to get enough info about classic lenses, but of course, I knowyou've already published articles on them and they aren't making anymore of them. How about publishing a _View Camera Magazine Guide toClassic Large-Format Lenses_, compiling articles from past issuesmaybe with some solid comparison data, tables of resolution andcoverage and--most importantly--photographs made with these lensesthat show their special qualities? <p> Have you ever done something on repairing and maintaining classicshutters? That's something I would like to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dk_thompson Posted December 4, 2001 Share Posted December 4, 2001 Well, I'll toss out an idea, in regards to some of the posts about preservation work. I know you all did an issue interviewing the 2 primary HABS/HAER guys, and some other preservation architectural articles in year's past, but I also enjoyed the article you did on the Chicago Albumen Works and the introduction of Centennial POP. Along the lines of archival storage, although there's a heck of alot of this info out there already ....anyways, maybe do an article about the Image Permanence Institute, the PAT and the updates to the ANSI specs....alot of people talk about archival storage, but really don't have an understanding of the "marketing" that goes on in some of the products out there....I'd also be interested in some more on the Chicago Albumen Works and the work they're doing in regards to preservation masters and conservation work on safety-based films....I know this isn't exactly "large format" shooting, but it still might be interesting to see an article about floating emulsions off decayed negs etc. Besides fine-art, the majority of the larger institutions around use sheet film, and I imagine will continue to do so as long as possible....my opinions here, not my employers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upscan Posted December 4, 2001 Share Posted December 4, 2001 With so much said, a few short comments:1) Steve, don't be intimidated by the ludites that do not want to see more Digital stuff. They are probably the same ones that saw the portent of doom in such modern amenities as "artificial ice". For them you could have a few articles written by .....psychiatrists. 2) Don't limit articles to subject matter on the basis of equipment cost. The misguided pragmatism of those who propose such is the road to ignorance. A good magazine should open minds and be more than a Sears catalogue.3) The LF community has a large population of the color blind or the pretentiously so. Humour them by all means, besides, it's cheaper. But do publish more articles dealing with color. We humans were given the great gift of a colourful world and the eyes to glory in it. Yes, colour photography is artistically more difficult as the good Ansel found out but that is no aliby for all the snobbery of the colour blind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dean_lastoria Posted December 4, 2001 Share Posted December 4, 2001 What I would like is a reason to pick up your magazine when I don't even have time to read it. The first two years I read your magazine I didn't even begin to undertand thoes articles on doing some complicated procedure or other -- now I go back and read them and I now they are there. If I am too tired or busy to read, I must pick it up for my archive and I will read it in six months. For the last near on year, there has been none of this in your magazine. I don't want to keep an archive of digital gizmoes that will be obsolete. Your magazine was a reference book bought monthly, now it is a "Dr. Tomorow" flyer. Dean Lastoria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_simmons1 Posted December 5, 2001 Author Share Posted December 5, 2001 I wish to again express my appreciation for all of the input I've received in the last week or so. Please be assured we are carefully reviewing all of the comments. Some articles are already developing out of the comments and I am sure that more ideas will develop as we review the suggestions. <p> In the next few weeks we will be updating our web site and one of the possibilities is that we will try an area where people can upload images and receive comments. However, before we try this I have two questions <p> is there any interest in us providing this type of service? should it be open to everyone or just subscribers? It is going to cost to create this service and subscribers are helping support our efforts. <p> Another question. Should we post articles on the web site? If so how current should they be? <p> steve simmons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_goldfarb Posted December 5, 2001 Share Posted December 5, 2001 If there were a searchable archive online of back issues, that would take care of the problem of requests for older articles, and if it were available only to subscribers, that would certainly convert me from a frequent newstand purchaser to a subscriber. If it were a subscribers-only service, of course, it would really have to be well done with a good search engine, up to date, and a reasonably fast server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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