luke_dunlap Posted December 11, 2001 Share Posted December 11, 2001 I just read an earlier post about Ektachrome IR film and technique and am curious about B&W IR photography. What are your preferred films? And what about focusing? I don't see the red dot (not to be confused with The Red Dot) on the lens that Gavin refers to for focus compensation. So, then, how do I focus for IR? Also, I know that I need a red filter. Does Leica make one for the 35 Summilux ASPH? I believe it's the E46 diameter. <p> Any tips or tricks you can share are appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_dunlap Posted December 11, 2001 Author Share Posted December 11, 2001 Also, can I have this processed at a good custom lab, or should I expect to do it myself? Is it prohibitively costly to process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike dixon Posted December 11, 2001 Share Posted December 11, 2001 I haven't shot a lot of IR, but I prefer Kodak's HIE (I think it's the only one with true infrared sensitivity--the Konica and Ilford films just have increased red and near-IR sensitivity). I haven't used the Leica for IR shooting, so I can't really answer your question regarding focusing. With a wide angle at moderate to small apertures, DOF should take care of it. To get the IR look, you will need to use a deep red filter (I think I have the #25 red). <p> Using a handheld meter, an EI of about 50 to 100 gives a reasonably good exposure most of the time; if metering through the red filter, I use an EI of about 320 to 800. The amount of IR in the scene/reflected by subjects doesn't necessarily match what you'd expect from seeing the visible light, so bracketing is a good idea. <p> In the shot below, her shirt was actually black: <p> <img src="http://mikedixonphotography.com/alexir03.jpg"> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike dixon Posted December 11, 2001 Share Posted December 11, 2001 Almost forgot: given an appropriate developer, it's no more difficult to develop than regular b&w film. A b&w lab should have no problem with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_olsson Posted December 11, 2001 Share Posted December 11, 2001 Interesting question, I don't see any IR-index on my Summicron 50 either. <p> If I may follow up Lukes question with another: Is it a No-no to bring IR-film such as the Kodak during flights where it will be submitted to X-ray machines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lutz Posted December 11, 2001 Share Posted December 11, 2001 <I>In the shot below, her shirt was actually black</I><BR><BR>Good you mentioned that, Mike...;o) Nice shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mostly sports Posted December 11, 2001 Share Posted December 11, 2001 Be aware that you must load and unload your camera in total darkness. Just popping the back even after the film is rewound into the cassette will fog your film. <center> <img src="http://www.photo.net/photo/472968" </center> I get the best effects with an opaque (visually) #87 filter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mostly sports Posted December 11, 2001 Share Posted December 11, 2001 <center> <img src="http://www.photo.net/photo/472968"> </center> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aoresteen Posted December 11, 2001 Share Posted December 11, 2001 The best filter to use is the 87B. B&W makes them in 39mm, 43mm, 46mm and larger. I bought mine from B&H who STOCKS them. <p> You can't see through the 87B. That's why SLR's are tough to use with the 87B so most folks use the red #29 which is dark but viewable through an SLR. <p> Rangefinders are the best type camera to use with the 87B filter. <p> One trick I use is to put an 87B filter over the FLASH to expose IR film indoors at night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_mcdonough1 Posted December 11, 2001 Share Posted December 11, 2001 Hi Luke, Leica lenses are corrected into the infrared. Shoot away. As to Kodak's color infrared, you'll need a #12 deep yellow filter to filter out the blue cast of the film. With the # 12 the images produced will not be overly cool. Keep in mind that it is a very snappy rendition this film produces. Great for rainy or hazy days. On Very sunny days, bracket. Finally, don't send this film to Kodak or any other processing firm that uses infrared sensors on their processors. I did and the roll came back totally fogged. Good Luck, Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enin Posted September 4, 2002 Share Posted September 4, 2002 hello all my brother in law spent most of his college career working in IR he has written a fairly concise how-to for me. email me and i can forward the word document along to you peter- the xray machine in airports is death to IR film. the same brother in law was nearly not permitted to return to US from Italy after he refused to scan his film in customs. a large portion of his 3 month photo trek was fogged even the lead bags don't block it all out i've heard or they're just opened and scanned anyway defeating the whole purpose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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