Backing up with 16TB SSD Mobile external drives

What guarantees are there that cloud storage services don't go bad as well over time? Don't some old files just sit there in storage as well that aren't turned over?

Google 'OVH Strasbourg Data Centre Fire' and hope that the different 'regions' are not actually next door to eachother?

No guarantees. That's one reason to arrange your own, personal cloud.

Don;t cloud companies turn over the storage regularly to verify servers that may be dying and to keep data on new storage units?

Don;t cloud companies turn over the storage regularly to verify servers that may be dying and to keep data on new storage units?

Perhaps. And perhaps they go bust due to rising cost of electricity. Who knows?

If 'someone' can make a bunch of centrifuges spin to destruction in a country far away, killing a server farm or two is easy.....:(

 

And as for holding big data stores to ransom... who knows?

"[solved] Is SSD Good for Long Term Storage: Past VS Now"

 

And the authoritative information on the subject would be found where?

Rather than some casually chucked together Internet article that doesn't appear to even answer its own question 'Past vs Now'. Together with an unattributed and undated chart 'proving' nothing, except as a starting point for some vague speculation.

 

Because according to that article, there should be thousands (millions?) of early SSD adopters crying loudly into their cappuccinos and lamenting that all the work stored on those disks has now evaporated. But there seems to be little evidence for that phenomenon.

Oh well, good enough is good enough. Save 2-3 copies of whatever media and store them somewhere apart from each other. The craziest things can happen, and hardware is of less concern than human error.

What guarantees are there that cloud storage services don't go bad as well over time? Don't some old files just sit there in storage as well that aren't turned over?

 

If you use a large provider, like Amazon Web Service, Google, or Microsoft Azure, you should be very safe.They keep data for some very large corporation, which have large legal department. If they lost data for Vanguard, or Fidelity, they would be sued into oblivion The bad publicity would ruin them.

 

If you use "Dingbat" Backup, you get what you pay for and you deserve what you get.

If you use a large provider, like Amazon Web Service, Google, or Microsoft Azure...

Haven't we heard enough of the cloud security breaches? In fact both Amazon and MS Azure were involved, not to mention probable data loss and recovery efforts that were never discussed, and not to mention the upload time required for big files. Anyhow, this one as good as the other imperfect options. ;)

Haven't we heard enough of the cloud security breaches? In fact both Amazon and MS Azure were involved, not to mention probable data loss and recovery efforts that were never discussed, and not to mention the upload time required for big files. Anyhow, this one as good as the other imperfect options. ;)

 

If you look closely at most of those breaches, most of them were caused by misconfiguration by the companies renting the time/instances, not AWS or Azure itself, at least the ones I have read about.

 

Although I have read of unauthorized access via misconfiguration, I have never read of loss of data if the user does his part. The problems occur when users rent instances and then run faulty software or do not know how to configure backups. They would have the same problems in their own datacenters.

Edited July 29, 2022 by bgelfand

If you use a large provider, like Amazon Web Service, Google, or Microsoft Azure, you should be very safe.They keep data for some very large corporation, which have large legal department. If they lost data for Vanguard, or Fidelity, they would be sued into oblivion The bad publicity would ruin them.

 

If you use "Dingbat" Backup, you get what you pay for and you deserve what you get.

So they will protect the data of those who can sue them into oblivion. What makes you think they will keep your data equally safe?

So they will protect the data of those who can sue them into oblivion. What makes you think they will keep your data equally safe?

More likely; what makes you think that they won't effectively hold your data to ransom and increase their storage charges greatly year on year? Once they have you by the virtual privates.

 

No 'cloud' - just somebody else's computer.

Thank you for repeating that "someone else's computer" thing.

Fees indeed go up. Fees are silly to begin with.

Why trust your valuables to some company that doesn't care about the value they represent to you one bit, and are only interested in rumaging through your data to see what they can find to monetize for themselves, and in the fees they charge for the privilege. There are no guarantees that you keep access to what is of value to you, nor that they keep others (including themselved) from getting their hands on it. Silly.

Well, I didn't have such small drives in the time span where I used digital photography. I started working with digital camera images in 2004 and drives were around 512 GB at that time, if I recall correctly. A 20 MB drive would be something available in the 1980s and would need replacing. But during the time I've used digital cameras I've never been in a position where I could justify the replacement all my storage with new ones on one go (it would cost around 10k€, and I have to have a space in my budget for other things such as computers, monitors, printers, paper, ink, and camera gear, not to mention household maintenance etc.). The transition of data would likely take weeks. So my external drives from around 2005 are still around as one copy of the data.

More likely; what makes you think that they won't effectively hold your data to ransom and increase their storage charges greatly year on year? Once they have you by the virtual privates.

 

No 'cloud' - just somebody else's computer.

Besides I doubt that anyone here has internet connection as fast as your M2 drive. Cloud is slow.

Similar situation as Ilkka - started with digital cameras in 2004 and we (my wife and I) now have about 10TB of images (radical culling could probably cut that number in half if not to a third; but who's got the time?). I never trusted CDs or DVDs as backup media and don't want to use cloud storage; I always backed up several copies on external USB-connected hard drives (too cheap to purchase NAS storage). The first set of drives with capacities ranging from 200GB to 500GB has been disposed of some time ago (almost all of them still working but impractical to keep using as backup because of their low capacities) and now I am slowly transitioning away from the larger 3.5" drives to notebook drives - much easier to store and transport and I don't need to worry about external power supplies. Negative is that notebook drives have lower capacity than their bigger brethren; so in the end, I paying a bit more per TB of storage. I am currently going through all my backups and will most likely erase the older drives and create new backups on those that are still healthy. Prior to my cross country move, I filled pretty much every drive I owned with redundant copies; now I have the great joy to go through them and sort out the mess I created. Good thing is that once I am done, I have fresh copies and probably quite a few empty spares.

Got five spinning drives in my tower; one 5TB drive and 4 4TB ones. They replaced four 1TB drives a few years back when I ran out of space. Planning on getting/building a new computer soon - at which point I will likely go to all SSD drives and put the spinning ones in a NAS server.