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The first fd lens I bought with my own money was the BL f1.8, 85mm. Loved the photos of my friends i took with it. Gave great perspective and DOF whether close up or whole body length. I've since purchased an 85mm, f1 2L but haven't really taken any portraits to compare with the 1.8...
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The FD 85 f1.8 would be great, but they seem to be selling for $350 or more. The FD 100 f2 seems to be selling for outrageous amounts on eBay (like $1,500+). I Owned the FD 100 F2.8 for many years and thought it was a sharp lens, and they are also available for a more reasonable amount.
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The FD 85 f1.8 would be great, but they seem to be selling for $350 or more. The FD 100 f2 seems to be selling for outrageous amounts on eBay (like $1,500+). I Owned the FD 100 F2.8 for many years and thought it was a sharp lens, and they are also available for a more reasonable amount.

This post got me curious about FD lens prices so I checked out KEH (haven'tlooked for a few years). WTH is going on with FD prices??!!? 85mm, f1.8, BL lenses used to go for less than $100. $500 for UG rated lenses? Are the cinematic lens conversions driving the prices?

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Depends on what YOU consider a portrait, and what lens you need for that.

 

Back in the film days, for head and shoulder, it was a Nikon 105.

 

But it really depends on how big the group (number of people), how tight the shot (full length to tight face), and how far you are from the subject.

Environmental portraits are wider, to include whatever environment or object the subject wants in the pic.

 

I've used from 24mm up to 300mm.

I did an indoor multi-person family portrait with a 24. My back was literally up against the wall. If I had a 20 I would have used it.

I shot a portrait across a fish pond, with a 300.

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If you don't mind manual aperture as well as manual focus, you can get one of the best short teles (portrait lens) ever made for not much money used.

 

I am talking the Nikkor-P non-AI 105mm f/2.5 around $80. A Nikon>Canon FD adapter for about $13. You can meter through the lens too.

 

You can pay more than this for the adapter, but there's no glass in the adaptors, so no image degradation

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Just bought one on Evilbay £114 delivered. A 100mm f2.8. UNFORTUNATLY all my camera gear including my F1 New and A1 are in storage at my sisters (had to clear up the flat. All my strobes all my MF cameras and my V600) So to still get my fix I bought a Canon 7D MkII (with two year warranty) with grip and Sigma 18 200 OKAY NOT THE LATEST AND GREATEST But boy what a camera espeically foi sports and wildlife 10 FPS WOW and quiet too. Need to get my gear back.
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This post got me curious about FD lens prices so I checked out KEH (haven'tlooked for a few years). WTH is going on with FD prices??!!? 85mm, f1.8, BL lenses used to go for less than $100. $500 for UG rated lenses? Are the cinematic lens conversions driving the prices?

 

I think what is driving the prices up is the young hipsters using the vintage lenses on digital cameras via an adaptor. My two cents worth.

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I think what is driving the prices up is the young hipsters using the vintage lenses on digital cameras via an adaptor. My two cents worth.

 

Nope the cool kids don't really use digital cameras so much these days, at least in arty Urban areas like London's Hackney. Nor do most of them buy lenses they just use 50/1.8's on the AE-1 bodies which supplement their phone and/or Instax. I guess some buy UWA lenses if they are into Skateboarding.

 

The big price rises are driven by the Cine boys looking for a less clinical look. It has been noted on some Video-centric sites that certain FD lenses have some commonality with Canon's 1970's K-35 series. It started with the Asph. lenses, but it's trickled down and FD B/L stills lenses have generally soared - basically if a lens has S.S.C. on the front it's value moves up. You'll notice that, for example, the 17mm S.S.C. breechblock lens can sell at a price multiple of FDn version, in spite of the IDENTICAL optics and coating, due to the magic letters on the bezel. There are a couple of exceptions, are good lenses like the 100/2 which are now back to what are realistic prices for the quality driven by MILC users

 

So, for the OP, and anyone else looking at FD lenses you'll get a better deal on FDn stuff. I'm good with this as, for the most part, I prefer the FDn versions and tend to look for the newest I can find.

 

For the particular request, prices being where they are, off-brand is good; the Tamron SP 90/2.5 can do decent portrait work, as can most 90-105 macros with 2.5-2.8 apertures.

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...It started with the Asph. lenses, but it's trickled down and FD B/L stills lenses have generally soared - basically if a lens has S.S.C. on the front it's value moves up.

Could it be because the B/L lenses may be (are?) more robust because they have more metal components? Or, perhaps, because the B/L mount is much simpler than the "bayonet" design of the FDn lenses, they're easier to modify? TBH, I have no idea what exactly is done to modify Canon lenses to make cine mounts.

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I dug in to this as a mate of mine is a cameraman and knows I have FD stuff, so he asked me if any was for sale - a mate of his was looking for some lenses to convert.

 

For the eye watering lay expensive high end sets the lens body doesn’t matter - as ther will be little to nothing left. Check this kit;

 

G.L. Optics Mk V - Canon Vintage FD 7 - Lens Set - cinemaglass.com

 

Note that there will be at least one FDn lens in there (the 135/2) and at least one FD B/L (55/1.2).

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You really have a wide choice depending on what you want to portray as a portrait. I've done some really neat ones with a 50mm, as well as the 135/2.0. I had the 100/2.0 for a few years, but never really connected with it. I recently picked up a 55/1.2 FL,  but haven't tried it yet for portraits, although I suspect wide open it will do a fine job. As mentioned earlier, the Tamron 90 on a Canon adapter can do an impressive job as well, although I use mine for macro work.

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The 'cheap' FD135mm f2.8 is great as is the 100mm f2.8 - if you want wider, go for the f2.0 versions if you can find (afford!) one. I have a beautiful FD 85mm f1.8 which is 'L' quality in all but name. The 28-85f4 is also a great zoom, but you'll obviously have a smaller maximum aperture. If you want to go for an older breechlock ssc lens, there is a 100-200 f2.5 zoom I believe.

With my FD and EF equipment, I have generally favoured a 135mm lens for portraits. It has a flattering perspective and allows you to get a comfortable distance from the subject but still with good magnification. I used to take my light and compact FD 135mm f2.8 with me all the time when traveling in the pre-digital days. In fact, I have just bought one for ca. $50 from eBay Japan.

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