JDMvW Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 Some very fine cameras came with a "lifetime guarantee" 1949 advertisement But how long a warranty is this? "Life of product" seems a slippery concept. I'm betting that if you could track down "WestView Capital Partners," who Wikipedia lists as a recent 'owner', you'd have a hard time convincing them that they should repair your Foton. So even big companies who offer a lifetime, are a little, well, "funny". Imagine trying to get that "lifetime supply" of "free film" for your $5 Tynar 16 from Astra Photo Products 1951 Have you ever 'collected' on a long-term warranty? I do remember getting watches fixed multiple times by TIMEX when I was in grade school, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Gammill Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 Maybe "lifetime" means for the life of the company subject to parts availability. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Farrell Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 The Agfa Ambi Silette was "guaranteed for life". https://mikeeckman.com/2019/06/agfa-ambi-silette-1957/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjferron Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) If a company incorporates and dissolves is there any one individual that can be held responsible for honoring such a claim? I had some high end windows installed in the house and they came with a lifetime glass replacement. Problem is the large retailer that contracted the window installation is out of the window business. I asked at the millwork center and the guy there said he would not even know who to call. The installers were sub contractors. My point is your lifetime might be but a blink of an eye for those who make such claims. Edited July 4, 2022 by mjferron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Helmke Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 John I got an Ambi Silette from my Dad and it’s still going strong. Generally speaking though, whose lifetime? Rick H. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick_van_Nooij Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 A year or so ago I confronted a local optician with a gift voucher from from the 70s that came from their store. It said it was "always valid" :D I didn't keep them to it though, but we did have a good laugh about it. "During life of product" would suggest that it counts as long as the company supports it and has parts available. That said, I had a Berning Robot II repaired by former employees of the company that had started a repair service after the company went belly-up. That story is repeated elswhere on photo.net ;) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q.g._de_bakker Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 "Life of product" can also mean "as long as a product such as this product can reasonably be expected to function without fail", and as such is what in the E.U. is the basis of legal guarantees and consumer rights. No matter what the manufacturer or dealer claims or limits guarantees to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricochetrider Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 "Life of product" can also mean "as long as a product such as this product can reasonably be expected to function without fail", and as such is what in the E.U. is the basis of legal guarantees and consumer rights. No matter what the manufacturer or dealer claims or limits guarantees to. "lifetime of the product" -as deemed by the company? I had a pair of shoes once that were supposedly guarnteed for "life". Turned out my view of the life of the shoes was quite different from the manufacturer's view of the life of the shoes. Claim denied! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q.g._de_bakker Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 "lifetime of the product" -as deemed by the company? I had a pair of shoes once that were supposedly guarnteed for "life". Turned out my view of the life of the shoes was quite different from the manufacturer's view of the life of the shoes. Claim denied! In the E.U. the company is not the one who decides. If a product shows faults before, with normal use, it can be expected to, you have a claim that must be honoured. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricochetrider Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 In the E.U. the company is not the one who decides. If a product shows faults before, with normal use, it can be expected to, you have a claim that must be honoured. Not so here, sadly. We get very little consumer support in the U.S.- where the highest court in the land declared corporations “people”, some years back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug grosjean Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 My father, who owned his own auto repair shop for the last 30 years of his working life, always joked that when a product with a lifetime guarantee failed: "Well, I guess that was its life then!" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_ante Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Not a camera, but the rubber grips on my Gitzo tripod finally fell off after years of service. Received a whole set of replacements in mail at no charge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Seaman Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 This reminds me of those old advertisements for everlasting light bulbs. They were just ordinary bulbs, but who keeps the receipt for a light bulb, and goes to the trouble of claiming for a replacement a year later? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels - NHSN Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 This reminds me of those old advertisements for everlasting light bulbs. They were just ordinary bulbs, but who keeps the receipt for a light bulb, and goes to the trouble of claiming for a replacement a year later? Oh, my! There is a whole other can of worms; Build-in-obsolesce. How about a light bulb that last more than 100 years? Except, in 1924 the industry agreed on a 1000 hours lifespan: The L.E.D. Quandary: Why There’s No Such Thing as “Built to Last” Niels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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