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For years, I've been set up in Library module, Grid view, with Caption in Expanded Cell Extras (snip 1).

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In Metadata > Caption, I have long used two lines (control-shift) like in snip 2.

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Prior to LR11, the grid view has shown both lines (although a bit run together) as in snip 3.

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After the LR11 upgrade, however, the grid view only shows the first line of the caption (snip 4).506832162_Screenshot2022-02-06124310.jpg.ef9aac9106b5890e9e896cf4fb704c42.jpg

 

 

Is there any way I can get LR11 to show all the caption information in grid view, like it did before?

Many thanks,

Geoff

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Hi geoff. I am using LR 11.1. What I found was that when i click directly on one of the x4 quadrants above the image in grid view i can choose from an extensive list of source info which info I wish to display in that quadrant location. If the label/attribute chosen is long it displays an abbreviated version like #3.

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Here is the list that appears for each selected quadrant showing your current selection for that quadrant.

I do not know if there is a way to have a different number of sections (other than compact=x1), I have view/grid view style & show extras/expanded cells selected. Compact just gives one label/attribute.

 

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I did just try to select none for one of the quadrants and the long label that was on the same plane extended into the none quadrant. ie it allowed me to use the entire line for the label. So i could have x2 full lines or one full line and one split line.

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Thanks. I've played around with the View Options a lot, and haven't got back to where I was pre-LR11.

 

Interestingly, If I set up Grid View like this, with TWO "Caption" options selected in Expanded Cell Extras...

 

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... I get this - with the FIRST caption line repeated:

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But, do a similar thing in Loupe Mode...

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... and BOTH lines of the Caption appear!

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Interesting, and inconsistent(!) but still not where I want to be!

 

I know that going forward I could get all the information in one place by entering it in a single line (i.e. without a Control-Enter) but that doesn't help for all the thousands of images that I have done the old way!

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Did you try selecting none instead of captions a second time under expanded cell extras?

 

Yeah. That's how I had it in the first instance. You can have the first line anywhere you like (top left, top R, bottom L bottom R), just can't have both lines!!

Thanks for thinking about it. :)

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I never use captions but a quick test in LR 11 Classic on a W10 laptop illustrated your problem. Any text that follows a 'newline' character is ignored in the 'grid' view. There were changes made in LR 11 to 'the meta-data workflow'. It's possible that only the first line of captions is displayed by design. It's also possible that there's a bug (or oversight) regarding multi-line captions or in the catalog conversion from LR10 to LR11.

 

A similar problem is discussed in this thread at community.adobe.com. One user commented that

 

Looks like the newline characters in the Caption got mishandled somewhere along the way.

but added that

 

I tried making a test catalog in LR 10.4 with captions containing newlines, entered four ways: the Metadata panel Large Caption, Notepad, Ctrl + J, Ctrl + Enter/Return. When I converted the catalog to LR 11, the captions all displayed correctly.

 

To me, it looks like you have four options (that aren't mutually exclusive):

- choose the "Large Caption" option in the drop-down menu (left) under "Metadata". The multiple-line captions won't be displayed on the grid itself but will be in the larger meta-data "Caption" field on the right of the screen in grid view for any photo you select

- find out whether you can bulk-edit your meta-data to search and replace 'newline' characters by a different separator (comma, semicolon, dash, etc; A LR metadata 'search and replace' tool is available at lightroomsolutions.com. I have no further info on it but a trial version is available. I'm unsure whether you can search for "newline" characters but you can try it or ask the support people

- ask your question at the Adobe s Lightroom Classic support community; you can also report the issue as a 'bug'

- work around the problem for now and hope that the multi-line captions issue is fixed in a future upgrade

 

FWIW, many of the 'Lightroom' questions on multiple-line captions are from users who have already switched from Lightroom Classic to the (cloud-based) Lightroom CC which doesn't yet support multi-line captions at all.

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Mike,

Thanks so much for all this background. I am one of those untold millions who use the bits of LR that I want, without really knowing what goes on under the hood!

 

I looked at "Large Caption" (now that you have told me about it!), but it isn't necessary, as the single line caption field automatically expands if you add new lines. This makes it all the odder that the "newline" function doesn't transfer to grid view, and makes me think it's a bug.

I'm reluctant to dive down the search-and-replace rabbit hole just yet (esp at my level of computer skills!), so I will report it as a bug and bide my time for now.

 

Many thanks once again,

Geoff

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