Does Anybody Have a Z9?

That's not really the point. If one only cares about making money then there are better avenues to that than making cameras.

No, but the more money they make, the more they can spend on R&D for the next incarnation of Z equipment for their loyal Pros.

 

The only reason I would change brand was if Nikon didn't provide a function, such as Pixel-Shift, that would significantly benefit one area of my paying work.

 

AFAIK, they could introduce this via firmware for most of the Z bodies, so I'll bide my time.

Ilkka,

There already are plenty silent options. If your livelihood depends on it, there is no reason why you would not already be using one.

 

Same answer to DB.

 

The suggestion, Mike, that someone might need (and not just want) a feature offered by a new camera has already been answered. That would mean, Mike, that this person has not been able to make a living until now. Or rather: until he 'finally' gets his hands on that new thing. Which, of course, is nonsense. What was good until now still is good until then. Even if that then, DB, is not the coming, but the next season after that. In fact, if that new thing had not been announced and would never come at all, we'd happily go on doing what we do without any problem.

 

This haste really is just what i said it is before. Nothing else.

Ilkka,

There already are plenty silent options. If your livelihood depends on it, there is no reason why you would not already be using one.

 

Same answer to DB.

 

The suggestion, Mike, that someone might need (and not just want) a feature offered by a new camera has already been answered. That would mean, Mike, that this person has not been able to make a living until now. Or rather: until he 'finally' gets his hands on that new thing. Which, of course, is nonsense. What was good until now still is good until then. Even if that then, DB, is not the coming, but the next season after that. In fact, if that new thing had not been announced and would never come at all, we'd happily go on doing what we do without any problem.

 

This haste really is just what i said it is before. Nothing else.

 

OK, so by your logic I should just say to heck with the Z9, buy a dedicated video camera that does 8K/60 and buy another D850 so I can have a physical sync port for my studio work. That makes sense….sure glad we got that straight.

 

Must feel good to be right all the time…

we'd happily go on doing what we do without any problem.

..and living in caves!

OK, so by your logic I should just say to heck with the Z9, buy a dedicated video camera that does 8K/60 and buy another D850 so I can have a physical sync port for my studio work. That makes sense….sure glad we got that straight.

 

Must feel good to be right all the time…

What i am saying that if Nikon would decide to scap the entire Z9 tomorrow, never deliver any more and recalling the ones delivered, you would not have to quit what you were and are doing for goodness knows how long already without a Z9.

And i am indeed right about that.

..and living in caves!

If that is where you usually hang, sure.

 

Consumerism in optima forma. If you do not get the latest (in a hurry appatently is a condition too), you are hitting rocks to create sparks for a living. Really, Mike... you believe that? "Living in caves"... wow!

you would not have to quit what you were and are doing for goodness knows how long already without a Z9.

No, but you'd loose out business to photographers who CAN offer things like totally silent imaging.

 

Maybe you've never worked in a competitive photographic market where you need to be as good or better than the others?

 

Being 'worse' is just business suicide.

 

Hearing 'I was at a Christening the other week and the photographer there didn't spoil everything with a noisy camera' isn't going to feel great with your State-of-the Art D850 or D6....get the idea yet?

And i am indeed right about that.

Wow, the lost art of modesty....:(

Wow, the lost art of modesty....:(

So it's forbidden to know when you're right and say so?

 

What has the world come to...

No, but you'd loose out business to photographers who CAN offer things like totally silent imaging.

 

Maybe you've never worked in a competitive photographic market where you need to be as good or better than the others?

 

Being 'worse' is just business suicide.

 

Hearing 'I was at a Christening the other week and the photographer there didn't spoil everything with a noisy camera' isn't going to feel great with your State-of-the Art D850 or D6....get the idea yet?

Mike, as someone said before, there are plenty 'totally silent' options already. So not only will the Z9 not offer a competitive advantage over other photogrsphers who also do not have one yet. It will not offer a competitive advantage over other photographers who do already use one of the other options. The Z9 will not bring something new in this regard.

 

From your ignorance about that, i must conclude that you do not know, and hence cannot possibly compete, in a 'competitive photographic market'.

Something that is corroborated by asserting that not owning a Z9 is equal to 'being worse'. What utter nonsense!

There are indeed competent silent cameras from other makes (mainly Sony and now also Canon) but they do not provide similar compatibility and functionality with Nikon autofocus lenses that the Z9 does. As for the move to silent photography, it's not instant and binary but over time it becomes more important as the stacked sensor cameras become more common. Nikon is 4-5 years behind in providing this capability and thus the pressure can be seen in the high interest in the Z9. Mirrorless native lens lineups still lack many items and thus having access to existing DSLR lenses such as 200/2, 300/2.8, etc. can be important to some.

A friend of mine just called to tell me his Z 9 is on its way from his retail vendor in the US to his house in Houston, TX . He is not in NPS.

A friend of mine just called to tell me his Z 9 is on its way from his retail vendor in the US to his house in Houston, TX . He is not in NPS.

Would he be interested in flipping it for $6500? :rolleyes:

Shun, I had similar thoughts, but I know what his answer would have been!

On my order, I just changed my Z S lens from the Nikon 24-70mm f4 to the Nikon 24-120mm f4. For my shooting, the 24-120mm will provide more versatility than the 24-70 f4.

I assume the Z 24-120mm/f4 S is going to be much better than the F-mount version. When I bought the 24-120mm/f4 AF-S VR in 2010, my FX body was the 12MP D700 and I was very happy with the lens. More recently, during a trip I used it on the D850 and I realized that for my landscape shots, the edges of my wide angle landscape is unsharp even at f8.

 

Since I already have the 24-200, I'll probably skip the 24-120 S, which looks big to me. (Actually both F and Z 24-120mm/f4 use the same 77mm filter size and have the same widest diameter, but the Z lens is longer, I suppose to make up for the shorter flange distance.) I also have the 24-70mm/f4 S since when it was the only Z lens available. For an f4 zoom, I do find it zoom range a bit limited.

The new 24-120 is truly a great lens where as the F mount version showed it was a lens of compromises. I can get critical sharpness at any focal length in the corners on my Z7II and now the Z9 with ease by F8. As far as size goes, it is in between the 24-70 F4 and 24-70 2.8 as one would expect so while not tiny like the 24-70 F4, it still feels compact.

 

As far as the Z9 goes, I have had it just under 24 hours so I am putting it through it’s workups and expect to do a job with it this week. It’s fast at everything, is as small as a grip integrated body can be and still be ergonomic. It’s really good to have dedicated buttons back, it is freeing up the “i” menu which in turn frees up the “My Menu” slots.

 

Did I say it is fast? Because it is ridiculously fast at everything. Also, shooting under LED lights that used to cause bad banding no longer does at any shutter speed, huge improvement there.

 

So far, I think it’s a winner for me.

Would he be interested in flipping it for $6500? :rolleyes:

 

According to Tony Northrup people are flipping it on Ebay for $11000. That is really bad as Nikon could have made that extra $5500.

According to Tony Northrup people are flipping it on Ebay for $11000. That is really bad as Nikon could have made that extra $5500.

For that you can check eBay yourself. There are a few Z9 going for $10K, $12K, and $14K, but IMO those are isolated cases. If one is in the scalper business, you can probably flip a Z9 for $6500, $7000 without too much trouble within the next week or two. However, those prices are very volatile, though.

For that you can check eBay yourself. There are a few Z9 going for $10K, $12K, and $14K, but IMO those are isolated cases. If one is in the scalper business, you can probably flip a Z9 for $6500, $7000 without too much trouble within the next week or two. However, those prices are very volatile, though.

The flipping is bad for Nikon in my opinion. They have a promising product and they might fail if they can't deliver them fast enough.

The flipping is bad for Nikon in my opinion. They have a promising product and they might fail if they can't deliver them fast enough.

 

If that were true then other high demand products would "fail" if they were in short supply for the first few months and that rarely proves to be the case.

 

And it happens with a lot of consumer electronics products on launch, iPhones for example go for stupid money for a couple of weeks until everything settles down. I think it actually does the opposite of hurting a company, it fuels pent up demand.

 

Now to Ford's credit on the Lightning, they are putting controls in place since they had to cease taking anymore orders for the truck for 2022.

Edited January 11, 2022 by DB_Gallery

Let's hope camera shops don't take any clues from the car dealers and start adding a "dealer markup" on top of the MSRP.

Let's hope camera shops don't take any clues from the car dealers and start adding a "dealer markup" on top of the MSRP.

 

Hmm... don't give 'em any

ideas...

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Let's hope camera shops don't take any clues from the car dealers and start adding a "dealer markup" on top of the MSRP.

At least I am not aware of any camera store that is selling at a higher price, but who knows maybe some stores have taken a few early samples and are auctioning them at those highly inflated $14K prices.

At least I am not aware of any camera store that is selling at a higher price, but who knows maybe some stores have taken a few early samples and are auctioning them at those highly inflated $14K prices.

Can't imagine anyone wanting/needing a Z9 that badly to pay above MSRP; and no one is forced to pay more for that camera. Some pay much more for certain photographic equipment :eek:

 

There are some $7k-$8k sales on ebay but somehow I doubt those $12k ones are real sales.

Can't imagine anyone wanting/needing a Z9 that badly to pay above MSRP; and no one is forced to pay more for that camera. Some pay much more for certain photographic equipment :eek:

 

There are some $7k-$8k sales on ebay but somehow I doubt those $12k ones are real sales.

 

Some people want to pay 50% over MSRP for bragging rights? Insane.