samstevens Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 I dont think it’s cheerful or not. I think the people making suggestions in this thread should be applauded for their proactivity and for thinking and trying to plan ahead rather than being told to wait and see. My point in continuing the story to a bad outcome is that waiting and seeing is not always as sober or successful a position as it’s made out to be … and fictional zen masters aren’t always the best guides. 2 "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerald Cafferty Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 I dont think it’s cheerful or not. I think the people making suggestions in this thread should be applauded for their proactivity and for thinking and trying to plan ahead rather than being told to wait and see. My point in continuing the story to a bad outcome is that waiting and seeing is not always as sober or successful a position as it’s made out to be … and fictional zen masters aren’t always the best guides. Point taken but do you think taking part and posting to this thread will help. I am and have been a paid up member for many years and I have a serious concern for the future (If I get through Covid and all the other things queuing up to see me off). If you can tell me a practical alternative to waiting and see please let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 If you can tell me a practical alternative to waiting and see please let me know. See David Triplett, Hector Javkin, and Mike Morrell suggestions above. Those may not offer perfect solutions, but they’re reasonable enough to consider and a good start to proactive thought. Waiting may very well mean that one day you’ll try to log on and it will simply be gone. Anyone using the site as actual storage for photos they don’t have access to elsewhere (a very bad idea, but one I’ve heard people talk about) might want to make other arrangements. Given the behavior of site owners in recent years, communicating to us in advance of closing the doors has a low probability. Even if the site stays active, if a member or group of members could put together a reasonable and better-functioning alternative, I’d support that in a heartbeat. 1 "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_watson1 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 "Watchful waiting" isn't an option; in fact, there aren't any options. PN is a fossil from the Pre-Cambrian days of the internet. Been here in several guises since '97 and see little reason to cling to what doesn't work in 2021. Provided all find seats in the lifeboats, then it's off to a new PN-ish landfall--maybe several in future. Instagram and even sluggish ol' Flickr give 'em what they want now. PN used to be fun. Not so much now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 I just love the old time 50's. A freshness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick D. Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Who knows, PN as is could profitable through paid membership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Peri Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Who knows, PN as is could profitable through paid membership. Hmm... I'd be willing to pay 25 bananas a year... http://bayouline.com/o2.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conrad_hoffman Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Doubt it. There don't seem to be that many active participants. My hobbies tend to rotate every few years. I was active many years ago and remember "the good old days." Then I didn't do much for a long time. Now I'm back again, but in all honesty it's no longer a site I'd pay for. No doubt the hobbies will rotate away again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
za33photo Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 The "No Words" forum seems to be unique on the Internet. I cannot find anything else that compares , The Lomo site seems to be the only one that comes close. All other forums that I have found are "Too Serious". I would hate to see the "NW" forum go. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels - NHSN Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 If the owner has any brains, photo.net will not cease to exists - it drives way too much internet traffic to be worthless. Try google any photographic subject, and there will most likely be a photo.net result in the top 10 - and that is even though Google gives lower priority to online forum contents in their search results. With Apple having given their users the ability to opt out of ad tracking cookies across sites, there may even be a revival of add-revenues on forums with homogeneous demographics, but the real value of photo.net would probably be defined by the owners ability to see (and nurture) synergies - CreativeLive probably saw the possibility of selling their training on photo.net, but I think they mistakingly thought they could just harvest customers without nurturing the community. I may be proven wrong, but I don't worry that photo.net will disappear in the near future. 1 Niels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaellinder Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Another buyer?!? Initially I liked the idea of as many current members of PN as possible buying the site. But, once the actual site maintenance gets old, what happens then? My thought is that we send a letter to the next buyer, signed by as many members as possible, which lays out our priorities for the site's continuance. The buyer's response, if there is one, should determine whether we abandon ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaellinder Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Per the attached, Creative Live has been purchased. No mention of Photo.net. Online learning company CreativeLive acquired by Israel-based Fiverr, a marketplace for freelancers Thanks, Sandy. I'm getting a queasy feeling in my stomach! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 The buyer's response, if there is one, should determine whether we abandon ship. The buyer's response or lack of one won't determine much for me. I'll assess things based on how the site is run. I doubt I'll completely abandon ship until it sinks. I have my trusty PN lifejacket on whenever I'm here. Besides, I'm figuring Leo DiCaprio will save me. Oh ... wait. :eek: "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJT Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Somewhere I saw that PhotoNet earns in the neighborhood of $500 a month. I guess that would be enough to pay the bills but I don't think it would be much of an incentive for a business of any size to continue the effort. I could be wrong. Regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 . "I have my trusty PN lifejacket on whenever I'm here. Besides, I'm figuring Leo DiCaprio will save me" Sam Stevens Don't you worry Sam, your bested mate Allen will save you, you won't need for that Leo DiCaprio. Having swam the English channel 11 times, the Atlantic Ocean 4 times, you will be safe and sound with me. We will be soaking the Sun in Hawaii, before you know it.. ,together. Bet you are so excited you can't wait;;) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaellinder Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 . "I have my trusty PN lifejacket on whenever I'm here. Besides, I'm figuring Leo DiCaprio will save me" Sam Stevens Don't you worry Sam, your bested mate Allen will save you, you won't need for that Leo DiCaprio. Having swam the English channel 11 times, the Atlantic Ocean 4 times, you will be safe and sound with me. We will be soaking the Sun in Hawaii, before you know it.. ,together. Bet you are so excited you can't wait;;) Surely, you jest! And don't ever call me Shirley!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
za33photo Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Well I think that the problems have started , When I tried to log-in I received the message "Invalid security certificate - Security certificate has expired on 18-October-2021". I had to overide to enable to log-in. Has anyone else seen this ?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis triguez Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 my Kaspersky told me this morning that photo.net is not a secure site. If I want to continue it is under my responsibility. I continue for the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Eckman Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Same here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis triguez Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 The notice continues but I have no problem logging in and continuing to collaborate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
argh Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 New certificate installed, sorry about that! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajkocu Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 I'm glad to see that it's back. I too was getting warnings about the certificate. Swim the English channel? I used to be able to swim the length of a pool!:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
za33photo Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 New certificate installed, sorry about that! Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Cool I was thinking it was "goodnight Vienna" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cameragary Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Glad to see it back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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