conrad_hoffman Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 I accidently left my Z6 set for 16:9 image area. No biggie and it suited what I was doing. I just assumed that one could still pull the full image from the RAW file, but I didn't see any option to change it in Nikon NX-D. Does anybody know if all the data is saved? Anyway, here's some nice 16:9 pumpkins- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_halliwell Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 I've never played with these options, so am looking forward to knowledgeable answers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Davies Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 If I remember correctly setting the aspect ratio to 4:5 on my D3 produced a smaller raw file, it wasn't a switchable raw option - the image was 'baked' at that size and dimensions. I've not tried anything similar on the Z6, but I'm pretty sure it will be the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShunCheung Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Unfortunately, when you set the image area to 16:9, only a 36x20mm area of the sensor is used (instead of 36x24mm). The extra 4mm in the height is lost, forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_halliwell Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 You'd think it would make more sense for these presets to be final in jpeg for straight OOC use and a temp. masked area in RAW for subsequent change., but keeping the whole frame. Storage size isn't really an issue anymore in camera. After all, the RAW needs converting anyway and is of no immediwte use OOC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkka_nissila Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Presumably in crop modes the camera only reads a part of the sensor data, which can speed up things, including buffering. For example, on the D850, the 14-bit lossless compressed NEF buffer is 51 images in FX and 200 in DX. The Z6 manual doesn't list these specs for DX crop mode, though, but I'd expect comparable improvement. I don't think it would be a common use case where you'd want different compositions stored in the RAW and in-camera JPGs. If you want to make an in-camera JPG with cropping, you can do that in the retouch menu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_halliwell Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 common use case where you'd want different compositions stored in the RAW and in-camera JPGs I guess I treat composition like white-balance, all options are available, post shoot, from the complete data set. But I can see a need for straight OOC redimensioned JPEGS with the greying out of the VF for better framing and then immediate use, such as printing/displaying thumbnails maybe. My solution would also mean Conrad's problem couldn't have happened...:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Claude Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Presumably in crop modes the camera only reads a part of the sensor data, which can speed up things, including buffering. For example, on the D850, the 14-bit lossless compressed NEF buffer is 51 images in FX and 200 in DX. The Z6 manual doesn't list these specs for DX crop mode, though, but I'd expect comparable improvement. I don't think it would be a common use case where you'd want different compositions stored in the RAW and in-camera JPGs. If you want to make an in-camera JPG with cropping, you can do that in the retouch menu. With my tiny Sony RX100 M3, the RAW default setting is 4:3 but I change the VIEWING through the lens and LCD screen to 1:1, so I can better concentrate on my subject. Onece I open these RAW files in PS, the appear 1:1 in camera Raw but also 4:3. In fact images are registrated by default 4:3 (full frame) and the VIEWING is cropped. Anybody knowing on how to get the same option with my Z6? Thank you ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_halliwell Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Anybody knowing on how to get the same option with my Z6? No can do. Nikon decided in-camera crop means CROP! The end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Claude Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Thank you for this unhappy end ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conrad_hoffman Posted October 4, 2021 Author Share Posted October 4, 2021 Moral of story, for me anyway, is always use full area! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_halliwell Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 But I can see a need for straight OOC redimensioned JPEGS with the greying out of the VF for better framing and then immediate use, such as printing/displaying thumbnails maybe. My solution would also mean Conrad's problem couldn't have happened...:D Interesting that the Sony RX100 M3 went the way i thought Nikon should! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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