Photo of the Week

And while we're at it we should reinstate POTD, POTM, and eliminate that one a day 24 hour rule. What are there, about 25 of us left! I've had photos deleted by the moderators because only 23 hours had elapsed. Ok, maybe a slight exaggeration, but why reject something that may increase traffic here.

Does this place any image in this thread, posted prior to 168 hours having elapsed since the previous posting, at risk of deletion, one wonders ? ;):D

Minor point - is this for photos taken 'this' week ? If so, when does the week start, and should this be included in the thread title ?

Good suggestion about the week's start.

Does this place any image in this thread, posted prior to 168 hours having elapsed since the previous posting, at risk of deletion, one wonders ? ;):D

One might assume a new Photo of the Week thread will be started a week from yesterday and that participants wouldn’t need a rule to tell them that the next thread is where their next photo would go. Again, just a wee bit of brainpower is all that’s needed. It’s really not rocket science.

In that vein, good hours counting. You see how resourceful one can be when one puts one’s mind to it. :)

Do you think the PN police are going to be checking the date taken on the photos in each thread?

YES!

YES!

No, there are only a few Moderators / Administrators, all want to have a life outside Photo.net, I certainly do. No policing. As the structure is envisioned at the moment, the photo will need to be posted within the week, and because of Worldwide membership, the week will need to be a little flexible. Stay tuned, more later.

Sandy, while this follows your post, it is not a response to you. It's a response to the thread so far. It was written before your most recent entry here ...

This is so pathetic, I don't know whether to laugh or cry. The original idea for this thread was a request to return the Photo of the Week feature. With all the thrill people have expressed over the current thread, it bears NO RESEMBLANCE to the original Photo of the Week feature. All this thread is is a tired old No Words thread lacking a theme other than the title, Photo of the Week.

I only hope Sandy comes up with something a little more like the Photo of the Week and a little different than a No Words thread that simply allows words.

I made some suggestions privately but was put off, saying they needed some thought. I was not contacted again about it. So I don't have much hope. Certainly, what this thread so far shows is that there's no reason to have any.

Sandy, while this follows your post, it is not a response to you. It's a response to the thread so far. It was written before your most recent entry here ...

 

This is so pathetic, I don't know whether to laugh or cry. The original idea for this thread was a request to return the Photo of the Week feature. With all the thrill people have expressed over the current thread, it bears NO RESEMBLANCE to the original Photo of the Week feature. All this thread is is a tired old No Words thread lacking a theme other than the title, Photo of the Week.

 

I only hope Sandy comes up with something a little more like the Photo of the Week and a little different than a No Words thread that simply allows words.

 

I made some suggestions privately but was put off, saying they needed some thought. I was not contacted again about it. So I don't have much hope. Certainly, what this thread so far shows is that there's no reason to have any.

You will be contacted again privately when some of the rough spots have been "sanded down."

This is a question to Michael L.

Hi Michael when you started this thread in the "no words" forum did you intend Picture of the Week to be just another NW theme? if you did this must all come as a surprise.

Either way you seem to have started something.

BR............GC.

This is the relevant part of a discussion from a Site Help thread last week. I hope it gives you an idea of the impetus behind this Photo of the Week thread. Only Michael can say for sure how exactly that discussion relates to this thread, what he had in mind for this thread, and what he has in mind when he talks about bringing back Photo of the Week.

The site clearly was quite different when we "veterans" signed up. Arguably, the inclusion of contests, POTD, POTW,Editor's Picks, et.al., may have been its main selling features. Although I no longer know the date when the current version of PN was rolled out, I do know that it included such features. When and why were they eliminated? We have a right to know.

Does this mean that POTD, POTW, and Editor's Picks will be reinstated?

Further, again quoting samstevens - "I suspect knowing the reasons won’t bring back the features many of us miss" is the line I tend to take when I am confronted with this type of situation: being a generally an outcome focussed kind of guy, I put my effort into doing stuff here that gives me interest and joy and forwards the conversation, rather than ruminating on the past; to that end, Sandy's idea of a Member run "Picture of the Week" is a good idea. Maybe you could start it and see how it flies?

I'm going to take your suggestion.

This is the relevant part of a discussion from a Site Help thread last week. I hope it gives you an idea of the impetus behind this Photo of the Week thread. Only Michael can say for sure how exactly that discussion relates to this thread, what he had in mind for this thread, and what he has in mind when he talks about bringing back Photo of the Week.

Exactly that's why I asked HIM, do you always have to have the last word.

. . . I made some suggestions privately but was put off, saying they needed some thought. I was not contacted again about it. So I don't have much hope. Certainly, what this thread so far shows is that there's no reason to have any.

It is a shame your private suggestions left you put off and without much hope because the response to your suggestions was that thought was required upon them.

I would have thought that you would value a response that your suggestions required thought. Thought on a suggestion implies that the suggestion has worth and the recipient values it enough to expend time and effort on it. regarding these suggestion to which you refer - I don't know what suggestions or to whom they were made and obviously the time frame of any response is relevant, but I'd suggest that if it's been only a few days, that you think of the glass half full, not half empty.

Then again, maybe I misunderstood the meaning of your Post #35

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On another general and definitively more important note:

I do believe "Certainly, what this thread so far shows is that there's no reason to have any [hope]" has great merit and is an insightful comment, especially if I were your suggestion recipient and therefore I were dedicating quality thought to it.

The whining and whinging commentaries in some parts this thread and many other commentaries similar in the Site Help Forum, are enough to put volunteers off ploughing any further of their leisure-time effort into this site: absolute.

WW

I agree with Sam, this POTW thread is a bit pathetic.

Worth noting when Ludmilla and Sam agree! :)

Your outline is close enough to what I proposed to Sandy that he’s been ruminating on. The problem is how the “submissions” would occur. Photo of the Week use to be chosen by the elves, and terms of agreement gave them permission to select a POTW from public galleries. I’d be uncomfortable choosing someone’s photo for discussion without permission.

I suppose if folks want to PM me either a photo (you can attach images to a PM), or a link to one, that would imply permission and then I could choose one. I’d prefer Sandy to come up with a way of choosing from an unknown pool. Then there would be no hurt feelings when people know their photo wasn’t chosen from among a few select entries.

But, I’m happy to start an experiment as long as those who submit have thick skins if not chosen and submit to me privately so that the discussion stays focused on the photo chosen and not why it was chosen above the others or why another wasn’t chosen instead.

So, bring them on. Send me a photo or a link in the next three days and I’ll start a Member-Run Photo of the Week thread in Casual Conversations. It will be unlike No Words. I will start it on Thursday. I don’t care when you shot or processed it, though if you want that info known you can include it. (Happy, Sanford?!) It will be that the photo is chosen for that week. Nothing else implied. For those who want more rules, please see Ludmilla, who I’m sure will be happy to make up some doozies to fulfill various needs for comforting restrictions. :D

The problem is how the “submissions” would occur. Photo of the Week use to be chosen by the elves, and terms of agreement gave them permission to select a POTW from public galleries. I’d be uncomfortable choosing someone’s photo for discussion without permission.

See my Post #44, above... it can be all done on a forum post, total visibility.

Here’s how I thought it would work

1. People submit a photo
   
2. Someone picks the POTW based on criteria they see fit
   
3. Members discuss
   
4. The winner becomes the new Someone
   
5. Rinse and repeat
   

If I understand your idea correctly -

That would be a simple formula and a key difference (to the old POW) would be the selection process.

My first thought is that it would require a two week cycle to (initially) get it going.

Week 1 - all submissions made to a thread and the last day the choice of POW is made and a new comments thread is begun with that chosen image at the top

Week 2 - new submissions thread started, etc...

WW

It is a shame your private suggestions left you put off and without much hope because the response to your suggestions was that thought was required upon them.

 

I would have thought that you would value a response that your suggestions required thought. Thought on a suggestion implies that the suggestion has worth and the recipient values it enough to expend time and effort on it. regarding these suggestion to which you refer - I don't know what suggestions or to whom they were made and obviously the time frame of any response is relevant, but I'd suggest that if it's been only a few days, that you think of the glass half full, not half empty.

 

Then again, maybe I misunderstood the meaning of your Post #35

I’ll share my thinking with you. I made specific suggestions in private last Friday at lunchtime and was immediately responded to. I was told some thought would be required. I heard no further. When I read this post from Sandy an hour or so ago …

Ladies & Gents, please continue, but a couple of us are working out a structure and just a rule or two that I believe will work. It will be malleable and member input both with ideas and content will be needed.

… I was taken aback because, though I gave a suggestion, I didn’t feel like I was part of a couple of folks who were “working out a structure.” To me, “working out” suggests back and forth contact, and there’s been none since my original proposal. So I figured some loop was actually in the process of happening that I wasn’t part of and worried that it was going to become a more typical top-down feature rather than member-devised and processed. I hope you’ll note that Sandy then responded in post #36, which I liked, implying my understanding that he was currently working alone but would be back to me.

I’ll share my thinking with you.

Glad you did share. I understand.

I suggest that it being the weekend and it also being the weekend of the 20th Anniversary of September 11th, I suspect where many USA people would be thinking of many matters, a time lag would be understood too.

Why don't we just post photos and F the F off?

Because we're trying to come up with a specific mechanism unlike other threads that are currently going. I will make one promise. No one will be forced to participate. And I doubt anyone will be asked to F the F off, unless they violate Terms of Agreement and, even then, I imagine it will be phrased differently.

Why more words than images ?