sethbaldwin Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 I understand the differences with the functionality of these three cameras but besides those differences, are there physical differences to the size of the body of these half frame camera, and are there also any differences to the mount, mirror in the mount, and flange from the mount to the mirror? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m42dave Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 (edited) The owner's manuals for the F, FT, and FV give the same dimensions for all three models, though they vary slightly in weight. The only notable physical difference is the lack of self-timer lever on the F. The F is of course larger when its accessory meter is attached. The Pen 35mm SLRs all use the same mount. The FT's TTL meter is uncoupled, though lenses for it have a different aperture ring to match the numbering system used in the viewfinder, which is slightly dimmer than the other models. There were some other design differences, so I don't know how many parts are interchangeable between the three. Edited September 10, 2021 by m42dave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m42dave Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Also, I believe the FT used a semi-silvered mirror to work with the metering cell, hence the slightly dimmer viewfinder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sethbaldwin Posted September 10, 2021 Author Share Posted September 10, 2021 Also, I believe the FT used a semi-silvered mirror to work with the metering cell, hence the slightly dimmer viewfinder. I see. I noticed that the mirror of the F looks physically different to the FT/FV. And that for some reason the FT and FV have an extra top screw on the mount. Does the end of the mirror protruding out towards the mount opening protrude the same distance across all bodies or does this distance vary between the bodies? Specifically referring to the distance from the base of the mount to the first contact of the mirror. I can't tell from these photos attached alone but the mirrors appear to protrude at the same distance out across all F bodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m42dave Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 (edited) I see. I noticed that the mirror of the F looks physically different to the FT/FV. And that for some reason the FT and FV have an extra top screw on the mount. Does the end of the mirror protruding out towards the mount opening protrude the same distance across all bodies or does this distance vary between the bodies? Specifically referring to the distance from the base of the mount to the first contact of the mirror. I can't tell from these photos attached alone but the mirrors appear to protrude at the same distance out across all F bodies. I have only used a FT which was quite a few years ago, so am unable to check measurements. A factory service manual might have specifications. I was unaware that the F had a different mirror (the corners appear to be beveled to fit around the screws of the mirror tray, which also looks different) and I do not know what the purpose of the extra screw in the mount is. I came across another thread in which a reader had the mirror in his FT replaced with a brighter, fully-silvered mirror (either the meter didn't work or he didn't use it) but I don't know if that was from another Pen camera, or it was custom cut. I have not heard of mirror clearance issues with using any Pen lenses on the different bodies, if that's what your concern was. There are a few other Pen users here, at least one of whom may have worked on these cameras, so if they see this discussion might be able to provide more information. Edited September 11, 2021 by m42dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sethbaldwin Posted September 11, 2021 Author Share Posted September 11, 2021 Yeah if anyone in here owns an F and or an FT / FV, it would be great if you could measure the distance from the mount to the mirror for me. I'm hoping to see that all body mirrors are the same distance from the mount, because if that's the case i'm most interested in getting an FV over the older F. But if the F has more distance between the mirror and the mount ill go with an F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip_williams Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 All the Pen bodies operate exactly the same with the same lenses. I have had all, and to me, the FV is the best user with the brighter finder and single-stroke operation. Do you have some reason to need to know the exact measurements? Is there something we don’t know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polka Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 I have a FT, but I do not use the ttl cell at all (I did not put a battery in it), because there is no way to cut it off, and if you don't cover the lens it will drain the battery all the time. The semi silvered mirror is not the first big one, it is one of the smaller mirrors in the view finder. I had to reposition the main mirror to correct the focusing and i explain how to do it here : http://www.collection-appareils.fr/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=19399 The title is in english, but the text is in french (gogol translate is your friend). POLKa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polka Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 I just noticed that the link I gave above does not display the picture essential for its illustration ; here it is ! POLKa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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