conrad_hoffman Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Just curious- since the initial spurt of 105s were shipped, have any more been coming down the pipeline? Has anybody who got on a waiting list, not the preorder list, received one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Doo Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 So far, the only person I heard who got it is Ilkka - outside of the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rconey Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Waiting...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conrad_hoffman Posted July 28, 2021 Author Share Posted July 28, 2021 I know our local brick and mortar store got one, but no idea if they ever got another. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_halliwell Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 I've noticed a couple of grey options in the UK, down to £874 with 'In Stock' labels. Almost tempted...;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodeo_joe1 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Not to gloat.... But. The main reason I (reluctantly) decided to go with Sony for my mirrorless kit was the sparse lens availability and 'roadmap' from Nikon. Now more than happy with the highly-regarded Sigma 'Art' 105mm f/2.8 macro that's readily available from any number of suppliers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkka_nissila Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) If you want the lens, put in an order at a smaller dealer with a good relationship to Nikon and then wait a few weeks, this has always worked for me. People expect that a lens is in stock before making the committment, but this doesn't work for Nikon lenses in high demand. The 105 Sigma Art Macro is not available for the Z mount and doesn't have optical image stabilization. The 105 MC's optical VR with the Z6II's in-body VR is just amazing, I can see none none of the jitter that the F-mount 105 VR shows when hand-held in the close-up range. Optically it is about as perfect as I can imagine, and unlike Sony, Nikon features automatic focus shift photography where the camera automatically captures images with a range of focus settings that can be combined in stacking software on the computer. This also works great. For images close to 1:1 magnification, I find stacking is usually needed. I have usually done the stacking manually but it's tedious, and this is why I got the 105 MC. The excellent VR performance is an unexpected bonus useful for those situations where a single image is sufficient and where for one reason or another, a tripod cannot be used. Edited July 28, 2021 by ilkka_nissila Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conrad_hoffman Posted July 28, 2021 Author Share Posted July 28, 2021 I like to support my local dealer for larger purchases, and I think I'm about #3 on their list for the lens, but I'm guessing it could be a while before I hear anything. I do a lot of stacking and am hoping that works well. Sometimes I have nightmares about needing to focus stack, HDR stack and stitch, all at once, to get the perfect image! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_halliwell Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 The 105 Sigma Art Macro is not available for the Z mount I do wonder when that's going to change? I have a suspicion that Nikon has a newer 'Secret Sauce' in the Z comms protocol. Some of my Sigma Arts and Sports work wonderfully on my D500/D850 but via the FTZ on my Z6ii aren't so great with hunting AF etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgelfand Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 I do wonder when that's going to change? 1) When Nikon takes enough of the mirrorless market to make it worthwhile. 2) Nikon has kept the lens/body communications protocol proprietary and "secret". Sony published theirs. When It is worthwhile for a third party lens maker to invest in reverse engineering the protocol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShunCheung Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 I like to support my local dealer for larger purchases, and I think I'm about #3 on their list for the lens, but I'm guessing it could be a while before I hear anything. I do a lot of stacking and am hoping that works well. Sometimes I have nightmares about needing to focus stack, HDR stack and stitch, all at once, to get the perfect image! If you are number 3 on their waiting list and they have already received one, I would imagine it is a matter of weeks before you'll receive yours. The global IC chip shortage is causing a lot of problems for camera/lens manufacturing as well as in many other areas, such as cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conrad_hoffman Posted July 28, 2021 Author Share Posted July 28, 2021 I've always wondered if Nikon made their electromechanical interface public, would their overall sales increase? That is, would the bodies become so much more popular that they'd sell even more lenses, in spite of the competition from other lens makers? AFAIK, they've never even made the dimensions of the F-mount known. I had to duplicate one once and had to do it entirely by measurement. It wasn't hard but having a print with tolerances would have been nicer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShunCheung Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 I've always wondered if Nikon made their electromechanical interface public, would their overall sales increase? That is, would the bodies become so much more popular that they'd sell even more lenses, in spite of the competition from other lens makers? It is more than obvious that both Canon and Nikon would like to keep their spec proprietary. However, the Z mount is already reverse-engineered. For one thing there are already various adapters to mount Canon and Sony lenses onto Nikon Z bodies and maintain AF (at least to some degree), and there is at least a Vitronx 85mm/f1.8 with AF in the native Z mount: Viltrox AF 85mm f/1.8 Z Lens for Nikon Z The likes of Sigma and Tamron are going to manufacture Z-mount lenses if they think it will be profitable. But I think the best part of Nikon Z is the Nikkor lenses. I am quite impressed by the lowly 24-200mm super zoom. At least I have little interest in getting third-party lenses, especially Sigma. I have the Sigma 35mm/f1.4 in the F mount. Optically it is great, but it is so unnecessarily heavy that overall, I am not very interested in Sigma Art lenses. One individual lens is not an issue, but if I travel with a few of them, the weight is definitely going to be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conrad_hoffman Posted August 3, 2021 Author Share Posted August 3, 2021 Talked to our local store today. After that first one weeks ago, they've yet to receive another. Looks like a long wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShunCheung Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Just be a little patient. How long have you been waiting? You are much better off being #3 with a local store than the long lines at B&H or Adorama. Late last year, I had a chance to buy the 24-200mm but missed it. It was in short supply for a couple of months, but eventually in May, it was $100 off and since I was also getting a Z6ii, there was another $100 off for the kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian_niemi1 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 I just checked the Best Buy web site and it shows that they have it available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conrad_hoffman Posted August 4, 2021 Author Share Posted August 4, 2021 I dunno, around me they all say order now and have it 8/7, which I seriously doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShunCheung Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Just for fun, my local Best Buys indicate availability on August 12. I assume they mean 2021 :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conrad_hoffman Posted August 4, 2021 Author Share Posted August 4, 2021 You know what they say about the word "assume". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_halliwell Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 (edited) and have it 8/7 You've missed the 8th of July.....! How can any sane system choose Month.. Day... Year.. in it's simple numeric form? :p Edited August 4, 2021 by mike_halliwell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian_niemi1 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 The Best Buy website now shows the lens as Sold Out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Doo Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 The Best Buy website now shows the lens as Sold Out. Conrad did it? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShunCheung Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 Hope he ordered the last one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conrad_hoffman Posted August 5, 2021 Author Share Posted August 5, 2021 Nope, not me. I'm still in favor of supporting our local Nikon dealer over the big box stores. I'm reasonably patient and have no trouble using the FTZ, my 55 Micro and various other lenses. For now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian_niemi1 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Best Buy in the U.S. is showing that they have it in stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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